Ulquiorra Espada #1?

[jr316]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Im saying thats them before being hybridized. And thats them, theres no denying that, Why would KT show two different arrancar? He only showed us 2 at that moment and its them. They match up perfectly the horns and the shape.

i dont think that Yammy was a vasteroorde...
as far as know we know, we know nothing... but what we do know is that it everything we've seen so far is pointing to that most of the espada arn't even vasteroode. Maybe Ulquiorra is one, but almost certainly the rest arn't. I doubt even grimmjow was one.

[eightfold]

Originally Posted by Malice the rebel

that isn't a silhouette of a vasteroode.

He talks about ajuukaru and there's a silhouette of that

then he talks of arrancar and there is a silhoutte of that

then at the bottom he mentions vasteroode but no silhouette of them =/

Which translation are you using? I looked at both the M7 and Ju-Ni versions and neither of them show Hitsugaya talking about arrancars.

[Jamerokee]

Gypsy said that Yammy was an Adjuchas, not a vasto lorde. But seeing as how vastos are reportedly so hard to locate, it would make sense that the rest of the Espada are Adjuchas-based.

Originally Posted by eightfold

Which translation are you using? I looked at both the M7 and Ju-Ni versions and neither of them show Hitsugaya talking about arrancars.

It's chapter 197, pg. 14-17 i think.

[jr316]

Originally Posted by Jamerokee

Gypsy said that Yammy was an Adjuchas, not a vasto lorde. But seeing as how vastos are reportedly so hard to locate, it would make sense that the rest of the Espada are Adjuchas-based.



It's chapter 197, pg. 14-17 i think.

kind of off topic... but it seems that vasteroodes alone should be on par with probably the stronger captains if not the weaker ones since they are the strongest of all hollows. If so then a vasteroode arrancar should be stronger than pretty much any of the captains outside of Yamamoto. Aizen would have to be insanely strong jsut to keep a whole group of Vasterood arrancar in check. We know that Aizen is disgustinly strong, but we dont know just how strong he is...

[Malice the rebel]

the first is a normal hollow, the second is an arrancar. as he describes them, we see their respective silhouette. There is no vasteroode silhouette

[Jamerokee]

Originally Posted by Malice the rebel

the first is a normal hollow, the second is an arrancar. as he describes them, we see their respective silhouette. There is no vasteroode silhouette

There. There is text talking about Vasto Lordes and there is a silhouette of one. A silhouette which bears a striking resemblence to Ulquiorra.

[eightfold]

Okay, Hitsugaya definitely mentions something about the arrancar in page 14.

But I still don't see how you came to the conclusion that the last silhouette is that of an arrancar. Just for reference, i've uploaded 3 versions of that page to imageshack:

M7:


Ju-Ni:


Manga-Rain:

As you can see, Hitsugaya is talking about the ajukaa then the vastorodes. I see no mention of arrancars on that page in any of the 3 versions.

Edit:
Jamerokee beat me to it.

[Sachankara]

Originally Posted by Jamerokee

Ulquiorra is shown to be very strong, but he mentions that taking on Yoruichi and Urahara together would be impossible for him, where as the #1 Espada should be able to take them on. I'm gonna say Ulquiorra is ranked #2, afterall, what's the fun of having the first-revealed arrancar be the strongest?

No, he says that Urahara and Yoruichi is too much to handle for Yammy. And while "fleeing" he tells Urahara and Yoruichi that their chances of beating him would be slim, especially when having to take care of the wounded at the same time.

[Jamerokee]

Originally Posted by eightfold

As you can see, Hitsugaya is talking about the ajukaa then the vastorodes. I see no mention of arrancars on that page in any of the 3 versions.

You're completely missing the point of what whoever brought this up was saying. They were saying that the Vasto Lorde shown looked like Ulquiorra, and that he's likely a vasto lorde-based arrancar. They weren't saying that Hitsugaya ever mentioned arrancars.

Originally Posted by Sachankara

No, he says that Urahara and Yoruichi is too much to handle for Yammy. And while "fleeing" he tells Urahara and Yoruichi that their chances of beating him would be slim, especially when having to take care of the wounded at the same time.

It looked to me like he was telling Ichigo that beating him would be slim. I guess dodgy scanlations could be to blame for that mistake though.

[eightfold]

Originally Posted by Jamerokee

You're completely missing the point of what whoever brought this up was saying. They were saying that the Vasto Lorde shown looked like Ulquiorra, and that he's likely a vasto lorde-based arrancar. They weren't saying that Hitsugaya ever mentioned arrancars.

You DO realize that I was the one that brought it up right? It was another person that was disputing that the last silhouette was that of an arrancar rather than a vastorode.