Helpless

[ichigo123]

Okey I saw another thread like this, and I know people here are alot of help, and really good friends. Recently today, me and one of my friends were talking and he mentioned the girl I liked, I have liked her ever since 8th grade, and Ive been thinking about her ever since, even her voice makes me smile.

We were a bit of close friends back in the 8th grade, probably cause I tutored her in physics and chemistry, but now we dont really talk alot. My best friend who is also my lead guitar in my band ( and suggested me as lead singer) like her too, but he said his time with her had already passed, and now its harder for me to let her know, I write songs about her about once a week, and with this new band project I got, I think I can maybe reach her, but I dont know why I feel like Im leaping off a building by doing so.

I cant just jump infront of her and start a conversation and tell her that well "I like her" and probably she is the only person I would ever care about so intimately in my life. Ive tried to reach her but somehow life isnt going in the direccion I want, and my words seem to become unecessary.

My point is this girl Ive known for a year, and somehow Im deeply falling for her, and I cant get myself to know what to say, I keep writting my little dumb songs instead of taking action but the truth is I dont know what actions.

help in this would be appreciated.

-Ichigo123.-

[negativzero]

for a start, you could talk to her for a bit, say like yeah, you're trying to catch up with an old friend and stuff.
then maybe if you got closer to her, you could take her to one of your band practices. sing a nice song for her.
ok maybe i am talking a little crap here, but its something to start on.
but seriously, for a start, you have to start talking to her. don't expect to go up to a girl whom you have not talked to in ages and telling her you like her suddenly, it would be a really big shock to her.

[ichigo123]

for a start, you could talk to her for a bit, say like yeah, you're trying to catch up with an old friend and stuff.
then maybe if you got closer to her, you could take her to one of your band practices. sing a nice song for her.
ok maybe i am talking a little crap here, but its something to start on.
but seriously, for a start, you have to start talking to her. don't expect to go up to a girl whom you have not talked to in ages and telling her you like her suddenly, it would be a really big shock to her.


yeah I keep the shock in mind, and to make this easier Im just gonna spill out her name:

"Andrea"

yep, you can find that name in all my writtings, she usually hangs out with her friends, who some know me as the "this guy is gonna make you laugh your *** off with whatever stupid comment he pulls out of his mouth" guy (big name but I know lol), I have talked to her from time to time, but I cant manage to keep a long conversation, due to lack of time, or intervenance with other people.

[Soul Slayer]

*scratches head* I seriously think a dating thread is in order at this rate...but I suggest u look in one of the other threads in the general chat section...

I think I'll start a new thread...this way we can pool all our questions and answers into one...where maybe everyone can find the answer to their problems...http://www.bleachforums.com/showthread.php?t=8095

[WhiteTiger05]

Okay...get ready for a super lO.Ong post :P

Well, you said you both were good friends a while ago soo, when you start the conversation you should be pretty relaxed. Don't wait for the girl to try to talk with you (I learned this the hard way. Just find out what she likes to do for fun, and talk about that.) Or talk about some old topic ya'll used to talk about when you were close with her. I don't think a song would be a wise choice though (you can build up to that later). Right now you should work on becoming close friends with her again, rebuild the friendship first (If you start off trying to romance her after soo long without talking she will probably know your intentions from the start). Try to keep a mysterious factor about yourself. I'm not saying just go talk to her like a friend. All I mean is, make her think that you like her but also make it not soo obvious(i hope you understand this part, lol). The worst thing to happen is that she knows your intentions. When I say be mysterious, i mean, make her remember you, and want to get to know you again. When you talk with her, don't be all 'buddy buddy', lol. I mean, try to flirt with her, a little, not alot(remember to be mysterious....keep her guessing what your intentions are....some girls told me once that they thought i was sexy for doing this, but in fact, i just do it by habit :p ) Hope you have time to read this incredibly long post of mine, and hope it might help ya out ^^

[Vamps]

well for a start i dont see the point in torturing youself to death.if your serius about this you need to put in the effort in talking to her and geting back in good graces with her.if things are going well you should notice the usual signs eye contact laughter smiles.....physical contact is a biiiiiiiiig sign.

After this try to hang out or whatver you do more offen with her.brining her to your band practices would be a good idea i think if shes intrested in the type of music you play.

finnaly try not to be overly forward with her as tht usualy tens 2 scare people off.after about 2-3 weeks i have to tell her how you feel but you might want to leave out the L word.im sure ull be plesantly suprised by the results coz you seem like a cool guy to me.
Best of luck pla.

ps. luckly for me and pixie fate or somthing played some sort of role i think.
maybe ill post the stoy someday.

[Nami]

Get her messenger screenname if she has one. :P Youll be less shy. Although, dont stop talking to her face to face cause that'll make you shyer in real life.

EDIT: I think I just contradicted myself >_> Whatever. Happened to me with a friend. It turned out all good in the end though :D

[Tifdevil666]

hm... this just my opinion.. so it might not work for everyone but heres some things you could maybe do...

- go to her house sometimes and hang out together, more outside of school, doesnt even have to be as dates. you could take other friends with too..just to start talking more
- get to know her again and talk about your interests and all..
-like nami said, maybe talk online, so its not like your always face to face talking
- just relax and go w/ the flow..hahaha. dont worry to much, try to be relaxed and all
- talk to her about your band and some of the songs & the lyrics you wrote...maybe she'd even realize sometimes some are about her

but ehh ;o thats just my opinion ,_,

[Yoshitsune]

get her screename, and pretend your one of her friends or you know one of her relatives. Then, get all the info you want on her, her hobbies, likes dislikes, etc. When you see her, mention these things, and she will start to like you because you acknowledged her likings and what she says. :) I've done this before haha, it helps if you pretend you're a girl and talk to her...

[WhiteTiger05]

I disagree a little, Vamps. What you said about physical attractiveness is great(eyes, touch(very important), laughter, voice, etc), but i don't think he should invite her to band practice just yet. Maybe if they are already close, and then again, maybe not. You probably don't want her to know every single thing you are doing everyday. I'll say for example: If a girl basically knows your daily routine and what you do every day, how is that mysterious. Mystery is a good thing. Your goal is to have her thinking about you. And anyways...why should she go to your band practice? I'll explain...(Imagine some other girl that knows you but you probably don't have feelings for. She asks you to go to her cheerleading practice...now you're thinking "Why the hell did she just ask me that?....she must really like me....to ask only me to come to her cheerleading practice". See, Andrea would probably know from the beginning that you want to be with her....not good, be mysterious my friend :D. Also, why would you take her to your practice if the other guys want her too?.....too much competition :p , don't you think so?

[Vamps]

I disagree a little, Vamps. What you said about physical attractiveness is great(eyes, touch(very important), laughter, voice, etc), but i don't think he should invite her to band practice just yet. Maybe if they are already close, and then again, maybe not. You probably don't want her to know every single thing you are doing everyday. I'll say for example: If a girl basically knows your daily routine and what you do every day, how is that mysterious. Mystery is a good thing. Your goal is to have her thinking about you. And anyways...why should she go to your band practice? I'll explain...(Imagine some other girl that knows you but you probably don't have feelings for. She asks you to go to her cheerleading practice...now you're thinking "Why the hell did she just ask me that?....she must really like me....to ask only me to come to her cheerleading practice". See, Andrea would probably know from the beginning that you want to be with her....not good, be mysterious my friend :D. Also, why would you take her to your practice if the other guys want her too?.....too much competition :p , don't you think so?

good point!!!

[WhiteTiger05]

Thanks Vamps ^^
But i really think what you said is the main thing he should do. Take it s l o w man, i'm sure she'll be there. Take little steps at a time, cuz you don't wanna go too big and mess the whole thing up with one stupid comment that might come out, lol. If you take it slow, their is very little chance of you messing up. Next time you see her, say "hey"(and smile.......not one of these smiles :D, but maybe a little smirk or something). And try to talk with her before or after class a little, don't stay too long, keep her wanting more of your conversation....good luck dude :)

[Tifdevil666]

get her screename, and pretend your one of her friends or you know one of her relatives. Then, get all the info you want on her, her hobbies, likes dislikes, etc. When you see her, mention these things, and she will start to like you because you acknowledged her likings and what she says. :) I've done this before haha, it helps if you pretend you're a girl and talk to her...
no offense..but that'd freak me out <.< having some guy pretend to be a girl i know..to get info ;x



its kinda hard for you guys to all give advice though ;/ i mean many girls are different and look for different stuff in a guy

my one friend liked this guy, and the guy liked her. but his friends were like 'take it slow. go slow' and so he did..even though he didnt want to :/ she ended up starting to think he just didnt like her ;o

and i have another friend who hates when guys rush her....

ppl are different ,_,

[WhiteTiger05]

my one friend liked this guy, and the guy liked her. but his friends were like 'take it slow. go slow' and so he did..even though he didnt want to :/ she ended up starting to think he just didnt like her ;o

True, but when ppl say "take it slow" they don't mean don't do anything :p
All i'm saying is, don't be too open and clear with what signals your sending her *That'll just get you hurt in the long run*. Of course the guy should have enough sense to make it known a little that he has feelings for her, that is rule #1, and then again, if he is too open with his feelings, the girl might get scared off or something....because, how in the world would he know that she likes him? Take it slow to find out if she likes you too....and then go after her :D

[yume]

ok...first thing that you should to is start talking to her again!...get to know her more and let her know you more!!! that is every important and don't jump right into telling her that you like her, just like what other people say, take it slow!!! it will really pay off if you take it slow, since she will get to know you better^^

try catching her at school...or even during some classes, or end of class, so you could talk to her and you should definitely get her msn or something, and chat with her online, this will allow u guys to talk alot more, than in person if there is always some distraction

MAKE HER LAUGH!!!! this is very key!!...hehe GOOD CONVO is also important^^
cuz if u can make a girl laugh, they will enjoy being with you and feel more comfortable, and then you will also laugh and then you will be relaxed and i'm sure both of you will feel that things are going well^^

remember simple or little things that she tell you...hehe
eg: she tells you that she has a test
she does the test, next day u ask "how was your test?"
This shows that you REALLY care!!!!!

do kinda slightly drop hints!!! but no big hints....just small ones....hehe
don't want ya coming out to strong and scaring her away...but you do want her to know/ but kinda don't know at the same time^^

maybe just ask her out to a movie or something as friends!!
you could start off as a group of ppl going
or just the two of you...really depends on the situation
and can invite her to your band and you can perform to her

last but not least......JUST BE YOURSELF!!!!!!!
good luck!!!!!

[WhiteTiger05]

ok...first thing that you should to is start talking to her again!...get to know her more and let her know you more!!! that is every important and don't jump right into telling her that you like her, just like what other people say, take it slow!!! it will really pay off if you take it slow, since she will get to know you better^^

try catching her at school...or even during some classes, or end of class, so you could talk to her and you should definitely get her msn or something, and chat with her online, this will allow u guys to talk alot more, than in person if there is always some distraction

MAKE HER LAUGH!!!! this is very key!!...hehe GOOD CONVO is also important^^
cuz if u can make a girl laugh, they will enjoy being with you and feel more comfortable, and then you will also laugh and then you will be relaxed and i'm sure both of you will feel that things are going well^^

remember simple or little things that she tell you...hehe
eg: she tells you that she has a test
she does the test, next day u ask "how was your test?"
This shows that you REALLY care!!!!!

do kinda slightly drop hints!!! but no big hints....just small ones....hehe
don't want ya coming out to strong and scaring her away...but you do want her to know/ but kinda don't know at the same time^^

maybe just ask her out to a movie or something as friends!!
you could start off as a group of ppl going
or just the two of you...really depends on the situation
and can invite her to your band and you can perform to her

last but not least......JUST BE YOURSELF!!!!!!!
good luck!!!!!
Wow, you don't see many girls giving useful advice about guy trouble, that should really help out yume.
*I just said that cuz most girls don't even know what their feeling, ya know, with all those conflicting emotions and stuff, lol*....really good advice

[SoulBerry]

Don't be afraid of being yourself Ichigo. You're around here alot and have a very nice personality, honesty and dedication to your work, and all people are appreciative of that, girls or boys. You never know what a girl, deep down, wants. Acting a certain way may be far from what she really wants, and it's tougher for you since you don't know how to act that way anyway (and thus making it appear unnatural). Does that make sense? Good luck ;).

[dar]

ichi! i posted it at the dating help thread..

[Tifdevil666]

True, but when ppl say "take it slow" they don't mean don't do anything :p
All i'm saying is, don't be too open and clear with what signals your sending her *That'll just get you hurt in the long run*. Of course the guy should have enough sense to make it known a little that he has feelings for her, that is rule #1, and then again, if he is too open with his feelings, the girl might get scared off or something....because, how in the world would he know that she likes him? Take it slow to find out if she likes you too....and then go after her :D
lol i know that

but im saying..she knew he liked her..he knew she liked him -_-..but he didnt want to ask her out lol ;o


she does the test, next day u ask "how was your test?"
This shows that you REALLY care!!!!!
lol <.< i hate when ppl do that .___. cuz if you did bad on the test..then your just like 'crappy' and i feel dumb ,_,

[ichigo123]

thanks for the help guys, and gals. Today a frien do fmy sister (who is very good with the guitar I may say) told me to sing with her, so we did this amazing collab, and when I opened my eys I saw a big crowd and guess who was there (yeah,lol) theres was lot of eye contact today, but I havent been able to get a conversation with her, I found out theres a field trip for two days out of school in another country here in mexico , so if she goes to it (which I am) maybe I can get some alone time with her.

[yume]

Wow, you don't see many girls giving useful advice about guy trouble, that should really help out yume.
*I just said that cuz most girls don't even know what their feeling, ya know, with all those conflicting emotions and stuff, lol*....really good advice

LOL...i really hope it does help
we do know what we want..hehe......at least most of the time we do:D


ol <.< i hate when ppl do that .___. cuz if you did bad on the test..then your just like 'crappy' and i feel dumb ,_,

LOL...but it's nice to complain about them:p