Best Military

[ramenkage]

Historically speaking, which country had the best army?

[aviet2k]

technology wise - the US

[ramenkage]

napoleon was a pimp
pwnt europe with a FRENCH army
and its a known fact that the french cant fight

[teferi]

yeah u know france umm... heres a link about france

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

[ramenkage]

exactly if a man can lead the french to victory, he is a god

[teferi]

yeah so it was just napoleon who wasnt even french he came from some little island and had a bad accent and was a really short freak.

[ramenkage]

noticed how i didnt say the french army was the best
i said napoleon
napoleon is my hero, dont mess with the short man! XD

[mgviperman]

i can deal with napoleon... however the french a good army? lmao
i'm gonna have to go with the us technology wise, but back in the day i might have said england or spain, it was the europeans that taught us the art of formation during the revolutionary war you know

[sasquatchnaruto]

man im going to say the army of ghenguas khan(spelling?)

he was so powerful he made china raise a ****ed wall lol

[mgviperman]

man im going to say the army of ghenguas khan(spelling?)

he was so powerful he made china raise a ****ed wall lol
eh that just shows that ghengis khan was a good defensive strategist. in my eyes in order to be a good army you have to be good at both offense and defense

[Nite]

Canada.

You all know it's true. =\

[mgviperman]

Canada.

You all know it's true. =\
lol they actually have a pretty good army

[Kane55686]

Biggest Military: China/India
Strongest Military: USA (if it was a one on one war)

[Byakuya]

Biggest Military: China/India
Strongest Military: USA (if it was a one on one war)

That will change in a few more years... China will be the biggest and strongest.. :eek:

Technology-wise, China has a advantage over U.S. Considering the biggest portion of stuff the U.S. has are still leftovers from previous years. Until recently, China never had any real military technology or offensive arms. Thus, they are expanding constantly and at a very rapid rate, developing a lot of new technologies that are already more efficient than some U.S. ones. No i'm not a spy. How i know this? I read the Chinese newspaper. Unlike many other countries, China doesn't seem to be hiding alot of their stuff -__-;

[Jikes]

The US army is totally overated, other countries are starting to surpass it in Technology. Look at the British and Australian SAS they kick ***.

[Kane55686]

If any country has alot of military technology, I would say Japan. Everything they have is high tech. :S

[Babbo]

Yeah, but they're so much smaller....that and the Us many elite units that are just as good as the SAS........

Technically spain hasn't really been powerful since somehwere in the 16th century and then the Spanish Armada got ownzed by the British....The Great wall of china didn't even need to be built....they were scarded ****less of the mongols, but the Mongols had already had most of their population wiped out by the Bleack Plague....As for the US being overrated....Have you seen any other Major powers be able to take out a counrty any time in recent history? Ummmm.chinese beating the US in tech? they may be improving their economy at faster rate than the US but they still aren't a first world country yet.......US is constantly improving on current Technology....What is that the chinese havemdae that is som much better then US tech anyways???

Right now Babbo would have to go with the US especially if John Kerry gets eleceted, cause he wants to make the army even bigger.......

[Kane55686]

Yeah, but they're so much smaller....that and the Us many elite units that are just as good as the SAS........

Technically spain hasn't really been powerful since somehwere in the 16th century and then the Spanish Armada got ownzed by the British....The Great wall of china didn't even need to be built....they were scarded ****less of the mongols, but the Mongols had already had most of their population wiped out by the Bleack Plague....As for the US being overrated....Have you seen any other Major powers be able to take out a counrty any time in recent history? Ummmm.chinese beating the US in tech? they may be improving their economy at faster rate than the US but they still aren't a first world country yet.......US is constantly improving on current Technology....What is that the chinese havemdae that is som much better then US tech anyways???

Right now Babbo would have to go with the US especially if John Kerry gets eleceted, cause he wants to make the army even bigger.......
The only thing I see better about the Chinese military is duh look at their population... They would have so many soldiers.

Same deal with India, huge population.

[sasquatchnaruto]

Canada.

You all know it's true. =\
Nite they have one talent and thats to bore me to death =/ lol

[Babbo]

Sure, but you know, not all of that population cna be put into the army.....As it were how would a country that's only kinda industrialized (not really though) in 20th centurey gonna be able to equip a huge army?????

Nite they have one talent and thats to bore me to death =/ lol

No!! they also probably have canadian Bacon in their MRE's!!!!!

[Kane55686]

Sure, but you know, not all of that population cna be put into the army.....As it were how would a country that's only kinda industrialized (not really though) in 20th centurey gonna be able to equip a huge army?????



No!! they also probably have canadian Bacon in their MRE's!!!!!
They can have more put into it than the US.

[Babbo]

whih are you talking about the chinese or the candaias, cause yeah the candadian could put more Canadian Bacon in their MRE's than US I bet......

[Kane55686]

whih are you talking about the chinese or the candaias, cause yeah the candadian could put more Canadian Bacon in their MRE's than US I bet......
They have more mangos. :(

[Babbo]

Mango's....so that's how they are superior to the US....Babbo guesse well have t o find a way to defeat the manga....But how...Hmmmmmmm....

[Naru's Guy]

British..not. The American Army hasn't gone against other armys, that many at least, so I cannot compare them.

[Babbo]

The British haven't gone up against another army in decades........

[teferi]

*cough* decades

[Lst2touchdasky]

Shu of china's three kingdom war period. Even though they were the first to be beat down, its amazing how far they got with their leader's goals. Also Guan yu, one of the army's figure heads, is now considered the God of War. And is highly respected by buddhist like me.

Also i really despise technological advanced warfare; The world should've stuck with the romantic weapons(swords and stuff like that)

[Babbo]

Babbo agrees, but more along the lines that weapons like sword etc. etc. meant Battles were smaller and had less casualities....Modern Warfare has caused death tolls to rise consderably higher........Even in the US's case with recent wars like desert storm and the Iraq war where we've had a samll amount of casualties the other side gt it pretty Bad......

[Lst2touchdasky]

Its like with a sword, you could prove your stregnth agaisnt others, On the battlefield you could prove that your nation's people were greater then the other. Mankind was actually on the food chain, homo sapiens could actually be considered a intellectual beast. You could strive to grow stronger, make a name, and bring recognition and honor for yourself. With it came lost of common respect, which is what most the world lacks to day. But with the creation of the gun, you kill a man who worked his entire life to hone his skills without even trying. Even if you miss you can kill some body- sure it might not be as crude as a chopping off limbs; but theres not fight true fight behind it- the enemy lacks a real chance. Its just whoever sees the other first.

[ramenkage]

advance weapon still require skills...

[Ninjacowboy]

advance weapon still require skills...
point, aim, fire.
it's pointless nowadays.but ah, im gonna go out on a lime. there are ways to get around guns. body armor.and what not.besides who in all hell whould place there lifes in a wepon. they break.
but ah. yea. for the best. ill go with, hollandia. just to make soul happy =\

[Spike]

To be honest...I'm in for germany ^^ (hoo yeah, nationality takin over ;) )
In WW 2 they were amazing going up against whole europe and had really advanced weaponry at that time. Not only back then, but in WW 1 and even before that before Chr. where the Germanians fought against Rome and took them down. Pretty impressive.
Right now we have a really small military and would we go to war, we would screw up bad. But our soldiers are still (at least some of them) quite comptent.
Right now I would also vote for the US. They're technologie is impressive and they have lots a money ressources (more than europe does, at least)
But I wouldn't take my eyes of Russia, they're still quite dangerous...and while the whole world is focusing on Asia (China, Korea etc.), Russia has no restrictions ~_~

[Babbo]

To be honest...I'm in for germany ^^ (hoo yeah, nationality takin over ;) )
In WW 2 they were amazing going up against whole europe and had really advanced weaponry at that time. Not only back then, but in WW 1 and even before that before Chr. where the Germanians fought against Rome and took them down. Pretty impressive.
Right now we have a really small military and would we go to war, we would screw up bad. But our soldiers are still (at least some of them) quite comptent.
Right now I would also vote for the US. They're technologie is impressive and they have lots a money ressources (more than europe does, at least)
But I wouldn't take my eyes of Russia, they're still quite dangerous...and while the whole world is focusing on Asia (China, Korea etc.), Russia has no restrictions ~_~when Germany took over out rome, Rome was the weakest it ever was.....theyw ree just way too spread out, anyone with a decent army could have taken them down and that case the tribal germans were the ones who did so...........

Russia is still so messed up right now, they have to deal with their own problems before they can do anything.........

I wonder why germany has a small army? could it be WWI or WWII? either way they lost............and the only reason they had such advanced weaponry was cause they started getting ready for war before everyone else and pretty much had their economy going towards it way before many other countries did.....

point, aim, fire.
it's pointless nowadays.but ah, im gonna go out on a lime. there are ways to get around guns. body armor.and what not.besides who in all hell whould place there lifes in a wepon. they break.
but ah. yea. for the best. ill go with, hollandia. just to make soul happy =\
It's probably a little more compilicated then that.......

Actually any body armor that could hold off automatic weapons would be so encumbering that it's genrally not used........

Hollandinia.....Haven't held a prominant role in world politics since around the 16th or 17th century.........

[ramenkage]

point, aim, fire.
it's pointless nowadays.but ah, im gonna go out on a lime. there are ways to get around guns. body armor.and what not.besides who in all hell whould place there lifes in a wepon. they break.
but ah. yea. for the best. ill go with, hollandia. just to make soul happy =\
ever tried to point aim fire?
the other guy knows how to do it too...
you need to be faster and more accurate than him
takes more skillz than you think

[aviet2k]

ever tried to point aim fire?
the other guy knows how to do it too...
you need to be faster and more accurate than him
takes more skillz than you think

reminds me of counterstrike.. but without the bunnyhops, quickscopes, and bs headshots.

[Spike]

Well anyway, Germany had the best military period. Even if they lost the war, they sure indured quite long. Well even if Rome was at it's weakest back then, Germania took em down because no one else could period.
Not only because they prepared well, it's also because they had a lot of genius in their land back then, did they have good technologie.
But who cares about military strength these days, I mean if there where a real War, such as WW III or something, than either Russia, China, Korea or America etc. would bomb the whole Landscape with nuclear bombs...you don't need any military for that.

[Kane55686]

Counter-Strike is fun. :)

[ramenkage]

Germany's success in wwii had little to do with their military strenght, they were up against the french...
im surprised it took them the whole six weeks to capture paris

secondly, defeating the Roman empire is no feat. It was a combined effort of external and internal conflict that broke the Romans, Germania was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Saying that Germania is awesome because they defeated western Rome is like saying that the US is awesome for beating Germany in WWI. When in fact the americans did almost nothing.

[Spike]

But it was awesome....XD

[ramenkage]

not saying that the germans arent awesome, because they are :)
but those events are not enough to make them the historically best =/

[Lss]

what yard-stick can be used to determine who has the best military? who would win in an all out war? who is better prepared to defend and fend off enemies? who has the ability to win while causing the least number of casuaties? its impossible to put a finger on who has a better army. so i guess the best is to say that armies should just be there and no one should strive to be "better" than the other. see what the arms race did to europe.

[ramenkage]

dot dot dot
first off, you missed the whole point of the debate, maybe if you think for a sec youll understand.
secondly, the arms race didnt do anything specifically to Europe, if you mean wwi it was imperialism, nationalism and militarism that caused it.
thirdly this is a debate, take a stand and defend it. there may be no right or wrong answer

[Mr. Hiyasaki]

The German army, or Bundeswehras it is called today, sucks in modern terms. They weren't even allowed to fight in a non-defensive battle after WWII until 1999 against Yugoslavia, and that was only after being granted such NATO.

As for the People's Liberation Army(China) they may have a 1/2 billion people capable of serving, but Canada spends just as much money on its military as China does on its. So that isn't saying much for the Chinese Military Might. (a little exaggerated, but you get the idea)

Alexander III of Macedon (Alexander the Great) lead a pretty powerful military, took over an assload of stuff. or the Spartans, a whole society based on the development of thier military (although they sucked) Look around, military greats are all around you.

[ramenkage]

agreed, china is overrated, manpower is nothing in modern warfare.

Alexander the Great was a genius. As disorganized as the Greek city states were, he was still able to unify it and spread the empire in his short life.

[Babbo]

dot dot dot
first off, you missed the whole point of the debate, maybe if you think for a sec youll understand.
secondly, the arms race didnt do anything specifically to Europe, if you mean wwi it was imperialism, nationalism and militarism that caused it.
thirdly this is a debate, take a stand and defend it. there may be no right or wrong answer


Of course not, it didn't do anything except make relations more Tense and help lead toward a situation of conflict........

Germany's success in wwii had little to do with their military strenght, they were up against the french...
im surprised it took them the whole six weeks to capture paris

secondly, defeating the Roman empire is no feat. It was a combined effort of external and internal conflict that broke the Romans, Germania was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Saying that Germania is awesome because they defeated western Rome is like saying that the US is awesome for beating Germany in WWI. When in fact the americans did almost nothing.

ummmm...actualy without american support europe would have fallen...epsecially since the German army on the eastern frofnt was able to move forces over to the west when russia dropped out of the war

[teferi]

agreed, china is overrated, manpower is nothing in modern warfare.

Alexander the Great was a genius. As disorganized as the Greek city states were, he was still able to unify it and spread the empire in his short life.

the movie about that looks st00pid everytime u see him hes waving a sword around and on horseback when he really just hid in his tent cuz he was afraid of blood and then he died from the trots...

[Kane55686]

agreed, china is overrated, manpower is nothing in modern warfare.

Alexander the Great was a genius. As disorganized as the Greek city states were, he was still able to unify it and spread the empire in his short life.
Actually man power is everything. You need men to operate the weapons, the more men, the more weapons they have.

[teferi]

no number of weapons is based on the number u can afford

and the number of ppl that can operate them is based off the number willing to/forced into the military...

[Babbo]

No....manpower is nothing compared to superior Tech......generally Tech decides the battles today....anyways, armies are gnerallly limited to a certain range of size cause of supplies.....imagne the supply trains that an army of 1 billion soldeiers....not to mention supplying an army of such a huge size as ou people suggest is almost impossible especially for china since they are barely inustrialized.......

[teferi]

no army could be 1 billion ppl large thas like 1/6 of the world population....maybe u could get a few(or more) million but anything beyond that is probably too inefficient

[Babbo]

I was just picking numbers form the air.......

[teferi]

uh huh...so thas ur excuse.... :rolleyes:

[Babbo]

Yes...it is.......

[teferi]

yeah u wish 1 billion...its easier to say a million and its more likely

[Babbo]

*kills insolent meber with one bilion potatos*......

[teferi]

*eats potatos kills Babbo with poo*

[ramenkage]

...how did a debate of intellect degenerate down to potatoes?

[Babbo]

cause Babbo didn't use accurate numbers in an earlier example in his lsat on topic post...Quickly, Some save this thread!!!!

[ramenkage]

ok..who is history's best military strategist?
once again my money goes to the short man

[Babbo]

Napoleon? Babbo guesses he agrees with you.......

d00d you have to join the fight club!!!

http://s8.invisionfree.com/sasquatchnaruto/index.php?act=idx

[teferi]

ok..who is history's best military strategist?
once again my money goes to the short man

u mean oddjob :D :D :D

[ramenkage]

w00t ODDjob!
hes the man, invincible in Golden Eye
why join fight club?

[Babbo]

Cause it's a fight club and we **** 'in members!!!!!!

[Lst2touchdasky]

ok..who is history's best military strategist?
once again my money goes to the short man
Zhuge Liang and Sun Tzu!

[ramenkage]

Sun Tzu definitely, but Zhuge Liang =/
he seems too fictional

[Cheese-King]

i'd second the Sun Tzu. but beware or the danish vikings will get you :)
we did own most of england, part of sweden,entire norway. at the same time, but then it went to hell :)

guess you can only suppress people so far, until they rebel and kicks you out.

[ramenkage]

naw, you can only surpress people if you have enough skillz
usually empires fall when the great leader pass away

[Lst2touchdasky]

If Zhuge Liang was fictional shu wouldnt really have been a threat to either wu or wei to be even recognized as an actual kingdom. Sure they did have other great men but with out Zhuge Liang they'ed be all muscle and only be counted as another rebellion group.

[shunzhi]

you french bashers!!

Just to give you some comparison:
-WWI :
French men mobilized : 8 410 000. USA: 4 734 991, Germany: 11 000 000
French casualties : 1 357 800 dead, 3 595 000 wounded
USA: 116 561 dead, 204 002
Germany: 1 773 700 dead, 4 216 058 wounded

Note that many wounded who died later in hospital are not counted in the dead

Population: France: 39 millions, Germany:1913 67 millions, USA(1910): 92 millions

US population in 1991 : 253 millions.

Now let's do some math:
% of casualties (dead + wounded) compared to total population in WWI:
- France: 13%
- Germany: 9%
- USA: 0.35%

% of mobilized compared to total population in WWI:
- France: 21.5 %
- Germany: 16.5 %
- USA: 5.1%

% of mobilized people who were killed or wounded in WWI:
- France: 59%
- Germany: 54%
- USA: 6.7%

To reach France %, USA should have had 12,000,000 casualties.

Another example:
If you want to imagine what WWI has been in France, try to imagine than during the first Gulf War, in 1991, 6 of the most industrious American states have been completly destroyed, and that you have lost 33,000,000 men (I said men, so it exclude women).

Can you come even close to really imagine that?

[ramenkage]

but remember, the germans were fighting also fighting the British and the Russians at the same time.
the only powerful ally that Germany had was Austria-hungary, which was in itself pretty useless
and your stats up there show casaulties, a demostration of the French's in ability to fight on the field. Is that number from Germany's total casualties or just the western front, recall that Germany did fight two fronts when the French only fought one.

Ill have to hand it to the french, they did do better in wwi, they at least fought for more than 6 weeks

how do you explain wwii?

[teferi]

all those sats r pointless cuz the US is sending all its troops quite a bit further and generally a longer time after the war started so despite the fact u have more casualaties doesnt mean u contributed more it just means u were in it longer and were closer so it was easier to field more troops.

[shunzhi]

Another example:
If you want to imagine what WWI has been in France, try to imagine than during the first Gulf War, in 1991, 6 of the most industrious American states have been completly destroyed, and that you have lost 33,000,000 men (I said men, so it exclude women).

I wonder why?....

[teferi]

it still doesnt prove anything all it proves is that veen at home when they had a bunch of troops they still mangaed to lose....by saying that the US would lose 33,000,000 men ur assuming they would fair as badly as teh french did.

[Cloud28]

i mean russia had a great army during the cold war, but china right now have the greatest man power, USA has the best tech, it would be very nice if there was actually a big war between USA and Russia(USSR) during the 50s or 60s

[Babbo]

i mean russia had a great army during the cold war, but china right now have the greatest man power, USA has the best tech, it would be very nice if there was actually a big war between USA and Russia(USSR) during the 50s or 60s

ok......*reports him to the government and the closest crazy farm*

[teferi]

*drags him off in strait jacket to ...US government*....oh wait a minute...hes a canadian...*turns a round and drags him back*

[shunzhi]

i mean russia had a great army during the cold war, but china right now have the greatest man power, USA has the best tech, it would be very nice if there was actually a big war between USA and Russia(USSR) during the 50s or 60s

the ability of america's army to field an offensive army cannot be underestimated even if russia wanted to invade america it couldn't because of america's carrier/sub fleet

unless south america turn commie then maybe a major push from mexico might take out most of the military bases esp san dieago and the west-southern bases...

[Sake-Sama]

ze germans =\

[parky]

we have seen time and time again that technology wins over manpower so i gotta say usa is the winner, plus we have so many nukes the planets would glow radioactive for a billion years if we launched them. if we are saying historically i would have to give it up to the Bundesrepublik Deutschland (germans) or Монгол Улс (mongolia)

[Babbo]

by historically you mean during any specific time period right? cause if you do you're wrong....WWII Germany never established a lasting empire.....you know, like the roman empire??? *cough**cough*

[parky]

we arent talking about empires we are talking about armies. Und die Deutsch haben die beste Armee gehabt. the u.s. doesnt have an empire but we have a kick *** army

[Babbo]

If you build an army in order to establish an empire, and you can't even fulfill that, then it's not that great of an amry is it?????

[parky]

its not the armies fault that hitler was a dumbass who thought he could fight a 2 front war, can you judge an army based on the countries president or king or chancellor?

[Babbo]

Rome Successfully secured,controlled, and expanded one of the largest empires that has ever been seen on the face of the earth with it's army....they had plenty of crazy leaders.....

[ramenkage]

rome =/
there administration skills were superb, militarily speaking...theyre decent and sometimes good other times not so good
Its hard to say whether the German army was a great army, since they could not take over britain, france fell because the french cant fight for **** and the rest of europe was unprepared for the new kind of war

[Babbo]

By other times you of course mean the decline of the roman empire???? Cause very empire/nation will eventually have one of those....it's inevitable.......

[ramenkage]

naw, the fall of the roman empire is inevitable, the cause was more internal than external, i meant militarily the romans had their ups and downs

[Babbo]

yup...just like every other army.....like WWII Germany...if they hadn't decided to bring the SS into eastern Erupe when they were invading Russia, they could have definitely taken Russia, but instead the turned the entier Populace against them, and still tried to conquer RUSSIA you know the place where a hell of alot of other people have tried to conquer and failed at it....

[ramenkage]

cant blame the germans, them russians are tough folks

[Babbo]

yeah and they could have had the lower classes on their side inukraine and other countries....

[ramenkage]

urkaine leaned towards the germans cuz stalin was an *** to them, but then again when isnt stalin an ***

[Babbo]

Ummmm....Exactly???? Helll Stalin was an *** to most of the USSR.... what was it called ??? The five year plan??(I think?)....

[ramenkage]

this place is very dead...

[Babbo]

yes it is....but you know this is not the place to talk about that Babbo thinks....

[ramenkage]

i meant the debate not the forum, not many active debators =/
back on topic
which special force is the best?

[eroda]

australian SAS ahhhahaha

[ramenkage]

consisting of mainly boxing kangaroos?

[eroda]

unfortunatly yes!

[Sorako]

we arent talking about empires we are talking about armies. Und die Deutsch haben die beste Armee gehabt.

Ahahaha, like, no, hatten sie nicht, nur mehr Glück als Verstand.

Comparing a nation's army with another is really stupid. I don't really understand which criterias you use to judge them - technical advance? Highest success in killing off other people? Strategical sucess during war? Sheesh... as if it was something to be proud of.

Plus, you can have the best equipped army in the world and still lose if the general is an idiot. After all, "an army of sheeps lead by a wolf will be able to defeat an army of wolves lead by a sheep".

I didn't take this thread serious at first, but some people seem actually convinced of what they write in here (the kangaroo army not counted ;-)). Scary...


... Oh, and the best special force is obviously the Vatican's Swiss Guard. Talk about style.

[Babbo]

An empire is nothing more than a large country generally gained through an expansionary policy. Armies are genrally created to maintain or expand a countries size, thus the Army that is most successfully able to do both is obviously the best one. And in case you noticed, Generals are part of the army so if you have crappy genearls you have a crappy army.....

[eroda]

empires ew i hate them but i like dictatorships as long as im the dictator
ahh dreams are wonderful

[shunzhi]

have any empires been establish without a dictator?

[Who]

Depends what day and age you are talking about. Today the US is the biggest world power, for a few hundreds of years before that it was England, before that it was Rome, and so forth and so on.

[Sorako]

have any empires been establish without a dictator?

Maybe not, but is an empire a good thing?

[shunzhi]

hmm right now I think in terms of power we have factor in influence.
USA has so much influence that when someone is murdered you see it on the news in Asia, thats why when US goes to war its almost a world war, everywhere people making background noises...

[eroda]

eh australia still rocks man we whooped the us in aid to inonesia woot!
we canceled australia day i think which is luek independence day for usa

and all money from fireworks is going to tsunami victims well my state alone is 30 mil 50+ for a couple eastern states so mayby another 200 mil

[Manjisan]

Yeah, America seems a little too bull headed at the moment. Always picking fights with other countries it seems. And a little too religious for my tastes. I think once it settles down again and recovers its economy, it'll be better.

[Seigdespair]

thats a tough question, if ure talking about historically...I dont kno the asian armies of old had demons for their fighters...but there were also the Romans...

[teferi]

Yeah, America seems a little too bull headed at the moment. Always picking fights with other countries it seems. And a little too religious for my tastes. I think once it settles down again and recovers its economy, it'll be better.
noooo...thas just st00pid bush pushing his born againess on every one else...

[breakurjea]

have any empires been establish without a dictator?

Yea definately, England owned 1/3 of the world at one point, but theyve had a parliament since the Magna Carta days.

[♠ Saint ♠]

Historically-speaking, I feel that the US while not having a good track record with picking our fights wisely, we are still the strongest military on the face of this earth. Each soldier is trained in many different fields so they can adapt to any situation (depending on the branch of the military). Nukes and other things that make a large area go boom aside, our military is highly effective.

In terms of historical leaders and such that kicked *** and conquered, there was Genghis Khan, Kublai Khan, One of the Ramses (can't remember the number. 2?), Shaka Zulu, Catherine the Great, Caesar, Hannibal of Carthage, the list goes on.

[breakurjea]

In terms of historical leaders and such that kicked *** and conquered, there was Genghis Khan, Kublai Khan, One of the Ramses (can't remember the number. 2?), Shaka Zulu, Catherine the Great, Caesar, Hannibal of Carthage, the list goes on.

Yea but hannibal eventually lost, even when he had to element of suprise and elephants and such :D . Plus, he should've taken Rome, he was basically on her doorstep.

[Dessyway]

why france troops cant fight.. since they are in europe.. n europe was the playground of the worldwars..

[theMACEproject]

i think technology-wise, relative to the century they had a military, the ancient greeks had the best army. They pawned most of the other civilizations and Alexander the great even conquered until india. since they had all the latest science theories then, the probably had the best technology compared to the crude tools they had back then

[Igawa]

Meh, i think that the best military history-wise would have to be the British Army from mebbe 1600 or so to late 1800s. Yes, they lost to the US, but we didn't exactly fight like they did. During the Naploeonic wars Wellington haxpwned Napoleon, ditto for India.

Against a formation-style enemy back then, they had no equal. Against guerilla tactics, they sucked (who doesn't)

Best army today: US

Best trained troops is one part, but the other is that we have the most money to spend. New tech being developed comes faster here due to more money (and brainpower is attracted to money).

Largest army today: China haxpwn!

#1 in a Shooting war: In a 1v1 shooting war (that means no nukes) with any country, US will win.

Most succesful tactic: Guerilla Warfare

As far as I know, nobody's beaten it yet :P

Best Historical Military: British by far. They're the only European country that hasn't been invaded since the Romans. (mebbe Switzerland tho, but they dont count ;P). Largest and longest empire ever, best tacticians, the ONLY army who trained with live ammunition back in the Napoleonic wars (no joke)

Worst Army Historically: French. DUH!

- World War I
- Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

Never won a war......how bad is that? Napoleon was good but he didn't count, he was Corsican XD.

[Truefriend]

I think the Israel is a pretty good army. Heck, your army be most top-notch if you are surrounded like by twenty, angry Arab nations that hates your gut and go to war like every month or so. Plus, having to face maybe hundreds of crazy, terrorist zealots(Suicide bombers, car bomb and everything that is happening in Iraq) would give some brownie points ;) . Also, most of the country's revenue goes into defense(50% to 70%, I am probably wrong *Don't hurt me x_X*). The Israel Army and the US army are the top two armies presently (*Turns an eye on China :eek:* FEAR MAOIST COMMUNISM!!!).

[Igawa]

OMG I totally forgot about Israel.....they're the toughest SOBs in this modern world. Like when the first got established back in the 1960's there was like a huge gangbang with all the arab nations around it trying to lay the smackdown. Failed though, and Israel has never lost a modern war.....ever! If they wanted they could probably pwn each of the nations around it no sweat.

And counting the terrorist attacks and stuff, that's something that an army just cannot stop....nobody has ever managed to do it yet.