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hasukawa13
10-10-2004, 05:35 PM
I've been thinking about these quincy folk and wondering if all of them had the same spiritual power. I look at Chad who's power is a manifestation of his physical prowess or Orihime who created these fairies likely as aspects of her own personality so it makes me think humans who develop powers do so as befitting their own traits. However, is it possible that all the quincies have the same power of creating those arrows that destroy hollows? If that is the case, it would mean being a quincy is likely a genetic trait passed down. But it was mentioned that quincies were spread out all over the place. So I wonder if maybe the arrow thing is simply something the Uryuu's can do. Maybe these other quincies could destroy hollows using other techinques. Has there been any mention of this in the manga I might have missed? Beacuse unless being a qiuncy is simply a unique genetic trait in people that allow them this form of spiritual power, there is bound to be differences.

teferi
10-10-2004, 06:24 PM
**** u essay writers!!!!!!

we already know the quincy trait is generally a genetic trait 'cuz ishidas dad had it too and he didnt use it 'cuz he didnt like it and ishidas grandfather had it too. I think its less likely that powers r based on personality its probably more likely that everyone already has one of specific group of pre-existing powers. There just isnt much basis for any specualtion on such powers because there are few ppl like ichigo so very few humans have developed such powers.

*looks at response*

**** u u made me write an essay too :mad:

edit **** i forgot **** was a swear **** :D

Djudge
10-10-2004, 06:27 PM
The only other mention of Quincies that would probably be related to your question is during the conversation that Uruhara and Tessai had with Rukia in volume 5. Sometime during the conversation an interesting mural was placed in one of the panels that Kubo-sensei drew which depicted a huge dragon-like Hollow being felled by several beams emanating from a Quincy's open palm. Chances are those "beams", as they were, are probably arrows. So it seems likely, for now, all Quincy were bowmen.

Lst2touchdasky
10-10-2004, 06:40 PM
I dont believe its a genetic factor, for theres seems to be no real trait that seperates them from normal everyday people. Imo its most likely just a manifestation of due to their beliefs and ideals like how orihime's abilities correspond to her thoughts. I believe thats its more of family beliefs, moral codes, and just plain traditional training that makes the quincy abilities. Sure there might be some genetic links but its most likely just factors that boost their abilities; like unnatural accuracy or nimbleness. Thats probally the only thing that seperates them from normal human beings except inherited knowledge of spirital powers.

Babbo
10-10-2004, 10:02 PM
Babbo thinks that if it wasn't a genetic factor then killing off all the quincy would not have been nearly as succesful as it was....Babbo did not bother to read your essays so Babbo may just be repeating...sorry...

axl99
10-10-2004, 10:31 PM
aren't quincies a relative clan of some "magi hunters" way back in times of war? perhaps most of their weapons were based off some of the ones the hunters used? like with zanpakutou they all had names too [individual ones we're not sure].

Cheese Ninja
10-11-2004, 02:57 AM
I had been thinking that Quincys were related. But there was no reason for them to all be, now that I think about it. We know is that they all went through Quincy training. Chad and Orihime aren't Quincys, they don't even exhibit their spiritual power in the same way.

The main idea behind Quincy power is explained during the fight with Menos and later added to in the Mayuri fight. They focus power from their enviornment, molding the spiritrons to thieir will, into weapons and aids in movement. Since it never says anywhere that all Quincys used bows, but since there was a reference or two made to Quincy weapons in general, I believe that Quincy weapons could take a variety of forms.

hasukawa13
10-11-2004, 02:49 PM
I had been thinking that Quincys were related. But there was no reason for them to all be, now that I think about it. We know is that they all went through Quincy training. Chad and Orihime aren't Quincys, they don't even exhibit their spiritual power in the same way.

The main idea behind Quincy power is explained during the fight with Menos and later added to in the Mayuri fight. They focus power from their enviornment, molding the spiritrons to thieir will, into weapons and aids in movement. Since it never says anywhere that all Quincys used bows, but since there was a reference or two made to Quincy weapons in general, I believe that Quincy weapons could take a variety of forms.

That sounds like a good explanation. If all they do is take the surrounding spirit energy and form it into a weapon, then conceivably, they could make something other than a bow. It was probably just a convenient weapon to make and one that a lot of them trained with.

And when did writing a mere paragraph become an essay?

teferi
10-11-2004, 03:32 PM
its a forum u shouldnt have to read three pages of text to have to find out wtf is going on

and i dont think that they make a bow because they cant amke anything else its probably that they cant maintain it as another wepaon or something so they just use it to release large bursts of energy as a opposed to using it as a blade.

Also its likely its become a tradition to do so and i think that even so it is still likely the ability to be a quincy is passed down 'cuz otherwise shinigami would be drawing spiritrons like quincy do or something

BadCrawford
10-17-2004, 11:05 AM
That sounds like a good explanation. If all they do is take the surrounding spirit energy and form it into a weapon, then conceivably, they could make something other than a bow. It was probably just a convenient weapon to make and one that a lot of them trained with.



Yeah, I think you guys may be right about Quincy's being able to make diffrent kind of weaponds. Granted, I have no real proof, just that in both images we've seen of Quincy's other than Ishida using thier powers, neither of them used a Bow, that we saw of.

The first guy just shot an energy blast from his cross and the other had his hands together like he was praying and killed a hallow like that. Another thing I noticed about the first Quincy in Urahura's flash back is he had his Bracelet on his on his right hand, like Ishida. Using youre right hand to hold a Bow is pretty unusual, what are the odds of them both holding it that way?

NeoEnigma
10-17-2004, 11:35 AM
Wow, I never thought one of the most obscure topics could be discussed in so much detail.

I really dont feel like going back and researching this topic in the manga. But I do pose a question (for those caught up with the Manga): Are Ishida's powers gone for good now?

axl99
10-17-2004, 11:31 PM
his quincy powers are gone. supposedly.

there is also the vague possibility he'll develop powers of his own much like orihime and sado.

Djudge
10-18-2004, 04:47 PM
Bear in mind he hasn't even tried to materialize his bow ever since he was incarcerated by Tousen. Plus, since it's been a while since he had those energy-inhibiting jail cuffs on, there's a chance that he might be able to pull out at least shreds of his former power.

Hell, with Renji seemingly coming back from the dead after a short nap, I'd say that it's becoming safer and safer to say that Ishida will find another way to become a power once again.

NeoEnigma
10-18-2004, 05:42 PM
He better. Hes like... the Legolas of Bleach :)

Kultra
10-22-2004, 02:50 PM
I still think that he will get his Quincy power back from other dead Quincy or perhaps his dad will play a part in him recovering his power

Crimson
10-24-2004, 08:45 AM
I just remembered something though I'm not sure if this is found in another thread... who was really responsible for Ishida's master's death? A hollow or Mayuri Kurotsuchi? I remember Ishida saying that his master died because the Shinigami didn't get there fast enough but I remember Kurotsuchi saying that he tortured a quincy to death while the latter kept on calling to a disciple of his who Ishida claimed was him.

allmightybaboon
10-24-2004, 11:49 AM
mmm.. i think the hollow killed him in life and Mayuri killed him in death?

Rashinban
10-24-2004, 03:05 PM
Ishida's grandfather was killed by Hollows in the living world, and then his soul was captured by Mayuri and brought to Soul Society. The dirty, twisted, son-of-a-whore 12th division captain performed some disturbing experiments on him, which lead to the death of his soul. Basically, from what I understood, his soul died from torture-esque experimentation by the hands of Mayuri.

pompom
10-31-2004, 12:25 AM
did u see the glove it didnt look like anything but a bow can come out

or maybe he can make a sword

Kultra
10-31-2004, 03:14 AM
did u see the glove it didnt look like anything but a bow can come out

or maybe he can make a sword
the hell are you babbling about?

hasukawa13
10-31-2004, 04:58 PM
the hell are you babbling about?

He was talking about Ishida's transformation when it looked like the bow was coming out of his glove. It had a nice look to it. Honestly, Kubo has a nice eye for design.

boro
10-31-2004, 08:10 PM
Where did the glove go after he took it off???

boro
10-31-2004, 08:11 PM
what I think is that Ishida will probably get his powers back but be more powerful then b4. Either as someone metioned earlier developed some kind of new power which doesn't seem likely cuz he has quincy blood or develop his quincy power from scratch

shunzhi
11-03-2004, 02:28 AM
quincy power = the power to see ghost...they train to absorb spirit energy from their surroundings

unless by some mircle I don't think he'll get back his powers...

kalvin82
11-03-2004, 03:20 AM
Me, just thinking, If you notice almost all of ichigo's friends can now see or feel ghosts to varying degree. I'm thinking along the lines of ichigo's friends developed their powers because of prolonged exposure to ichigo. or other shinigami. if so quincy might just start developing such powers of his own...
haha, sounds like some kind of soul mutation due to the radiation caused by the shinigami