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Nami
03-23-2005, 09:57 AM
Your thoughts on this matter? :)

k_angel_iii
03-23-2005, 12:45 PM
Your thoughts on this matter? :)

Actually, I'm much very very interested in what you think of the matter ? I'm curious to know how, why, the what, the where, the who, and the why!!!. Tell me everything :D .

♠ Saint ♠
03-27-2005, 06:30 PM
I read somewhere about a tribe of Native Americans who have a gene that makes them put on weight, no matter what they eat. I think they are called the Pena tribe. >_> For them, obesity is part of their make-up but for those who cram themselves full of junk food, I have no sympathy.

Personally, I think that people should try and be a little more conscious of what they eat. I mean, don't tell me you are on a diet if you are shoving a Big Mac meal down your throat, washing it down with a small diet Coke. However, this is America (at least where I live) and we enjoy the freedom to do **** near whatever we want here so... yeah.

JudgeMe
03-27-2005, 08:54 PM
Some people have no self contorl, so when they ARE obese, they blame it on mcdonold's. But you know what? McDonold's doesn't and break into your house and shove french fries and hamburgers down your throught.

Windúril
03-27-2005, 09:31 PM
People for some reason have to spend money to buy useless information about how to lose weight. You learn how fat storage and stuff works in high school, and if you forget, they have hundreds of articles on the internet.

♠ Saint ♠
03-27-2005, 09:56 PM
Heh, or spend lots of money on expensive surgeries and procedures to make themselves fit for the cover of Cosmopolitan. My aunt for example, spend at least $10,000 on this surgery to put this thing in her stomach that squeezes her stomach so she'll have less of an appetite and not eat as much. O_o Then, at the family reunion (which I attend only because it's funny to see my mom's relatives fight) the same aunt says," Some of us WORK HARD to look good." I choked on my pina colada. Riiiiight, Aunt Judy... writing a check is brain surgery.

Windúril
03-27-2005, 10:25 PM
Heh, or spend lots of money on expensive surgeries and procedures to make themselves fit for the cover of Cosmopolitan. My aunt for example, spend at least $10,000 on this surgery to put this thing in her stomach that squeezes her stomach so she'll have less of an appetite and not eat as much. O_o Then, at the family reunion (which I attend only because it's funny to see my mom's relatives fight) the same aunt says," Some of us WORK HARD to look good." I choked on my pina colada. Riiiiight, Aunt Judy... writing a check is brain surgery.

Yep, that's a perfect example. People will not get thinner by reading up on ways how to lose weight...it requires actual work. There are of course circumstances where that work may not be rewarded, but that is usally due to a simple error in routine that with the proper information can easily be corrected.

Who
03-27-2005, 10:31 PM
Some people have no self contorl, so when they ARE obese, they blame it on mcdonold's. But you know what? McDonold's doesn't and break into your house and shove french fries and hamburgers down your throught.


Hey that's a touchy subject *cries* *Sniff* Mc....Mcdonal...Mcdonalds....camm....came....in... ..to....mmmmy....hoo..hoouse...and...shoved...stuf f...down...my....throat......and....made...me...fa aatt...wahh

Well I'm not really fat, but that was just a joke. Anyway if you care about your weight diet, if you don't then die of a heart attack ;).

♠ Saint ♠
03-27-2005, 10:45 PM
I want to recommend two flash cartoons to this topic:

Rant Two (http://www.illwillpress.com/ranttwo.html)
Fatkin's Diet (http://www.illwillpress.com/fatkins.html)

Who
03-27-2005, 10:47 PM
Too bad flash animation sound doesn't work on my computer anymore, and **** I should have said " No MCDs has not stuffed things down my throat but they have raped me with fries and burgers ewwwwww." Anywho I also find selling movies/documentaries on this retarded.

♠ Saint ♠
03-27-2005, 10:50 PM
I take it you did not approve of "Supersize Me"? I have not bothered to watch it yet. >_>

Who
03-27-2005, 10:54 PM
It was just a scandal to make more money, I mean seriously what idiot in their right mind only eats supersize of MCDS for 30 dies strait and does not expect to die? I persoanally do not eat fast foods anymore, because they digust me and I once literally found a bugger in my burger.

♠ Saint ♠
03-27-2005, 11:01 PM
._. Ick, dude. I confess an addiction to Taco Hell, though. I won't eat at any other fast food place. Even at that, money is tight for me so I can afford fast food once a week or once every two weeks.

tensa-zan-getsu
03-28-2005, 12:36 AM
i think its all in the mind, u may think that ur hungry and then u want to eat or it might be depression, when ever ur depressed u have to eat to escape the world

k_angel_iii
03-28-2005, 01:41 AM
Societies that have obesity problems are ones where physical activity diminished. Our ancestors worked hard to chase down animals, grow food, fight for resource etc. So at the time, the humans who were able to store food most efficiently probably survived.

Fast forward to today where in some countries the most work people do each day is to use their finger to press a button (there are days when I spend most of the day seated at the table working on some project or other). Let's not forget there are places where people don't find food neatly sorted, weighed and stacked in endlesss rows (like most people may be accustomed to). This may explain why some people are more prone to gain weight - either because it is genetic or at least a tendancy, or that those restraints on feeding behavior have been thinned out of the current genepool. Believe it or not, there are times in the past when being full figured was considered healthy, while skinny people were considered sickly or at least disturbed in one way or other.

For societies which needed physical labor, the appearance of being well fed, demonstrated to a potential mate that thier future partner had the ability to do physical activity to feed themselves well (and such a person is one who is likely to help feed the children or pass on those traits).

For societies where everything physical is unnecessary (or at least less necessary), mental self sufficiency is now the name of the game. If someone has enough self-control to not over-eat, then it is also likely that they have enough funds (yes, money can be a measurement of attractiveness) to eat nutritious food, afford a personal trainer, take time off to work at the gym. The rich actually have more time and power to not work and to actually spend some time and resources to reduce weight. The poor are caught in an endless cycle of drone-work with little time to exercise. So, all of a sudden, thin is in, and has become a measurement of fitness (possession of good or admirable traits).

But don't make the mistake of assuming that one trait is always bad and the other is always good. At any particular time, the environment is acting on the genepool. If environment at time A has different requirements than a later environment time B, then it is possible for environment A to actually erase traits that might have been beneficial in the future environment B. Yes, the future in unpredictable, and environments are non-deterministic in their evolution.

As an example, consider the case of the effects of depression. Someone who is depressed may indulge or they may abstain (it could be either food, sex, drugs or whatever) from something. The act of engaging in something pleasurable (and feeding is one) could be a way to preserve the genome. However, abstainance could also be a valid fit behavior because someone who is able to shut out distractions and think through their issues, may have a better chance of survival. This is just an example of how different behaviors may be valid or invalid. You can make some counterexamples and so on, but my point is that there is really never an always right answer.

Anyway. As I always say. If you're having a problem with weight, change your habits so that you do more physical activity. Don't always take the car, walk (yes, some people actually consider walking 30 minutes to school a hassle, but I really don't think it's a big deal). Don't put junk food in the fridge, get something less fattening. Instead of buying junkfood and snacking, get yourself a good meal at home. I could go on. I think you can probably help yourself more by thinking critically about yourself than paying 40-100 dollars for someone to tell you crap. If you have family and loved ones, it's nice to get their help too.

A lot of the diets out there aren't helpful as someone pointed out, because so long as you're engaging in habits that led to your weight gain, you'll probably revert to gaining weight the moment you're not paying attention. So, take some time to develop some good habits (hint: it takes about 21 days to develop a habit, so be patient).

PS: I do not advocate indulgence or abstainance from food or sex. Just because I'm seemingly using Darwinism doesn't suggest I am advocating it, or claiming it to be gospel. Speaking of gospel, I do not advocate any religion or belief. For the children you might chance upon my rantings and get confused, talk to your parents. At the very least, don't take my word for it. Think and think for yourself.

SoulBerry
03-28-2005, 05:50 AM
wee, it starts with obesity and ends with sex. Good job! I'm assuming you're a guy ;)

Seriously now.
Well, as people have mentioned, there are genes that cause obesity; some people naturally lack the glucagon to metabolize complex sugars, and that sugar turns into fat. The victim can't really do anything in this case, except try to live healthy. No one's really at fault for this problem.

The fast food industry or people's responsibility? I say both. Consider someone selling bootlegged DVDs at a market. Someone buys it; whose fault? Most of us would say the vendor here. Someone develops obseity from MacDonald's. Whose fault? Most of us might say that it was the person's individual choice to eat the food. Our personal opinions often come into these arguments, and I, for one, do not have the objectivity to be able to answer these questions fairly.

Here's a very tough one, in my opinion. Someone develops cancer from second hand smoke. Whose fault is this? The tabacco company's? The primary smokers?

aviet2k
03-28-2005, 01:00 PM
Seriously now.
Well, as people have mentioned, there are genes that cause obesity; some people naturally lack the glucagon to metabolize complex sugars, and that sugar turns into fat. The victim can't really do anything in this case, except try to live healthy. No one's really at fault for this problem.

Agreed.


The fast food industry or people's responsibility? I say both. Consider someone selling bootlegged DVDs at a market. Someone buys it; whose fault? Most of us would say the vendor here. Someone develops obseity from MacDonald's. Whose fault? Most of us might say that it was the person's individual choice to eat the food. Our personal opinions often come into these arguments, and I, for one, do not have the objectivity to be able to answer these questions fairly.

I also say both, but this is an unfair analogy. The reason is because selling bootlegged DVDs is illegal. So the one at fault IS the vendor. It has nothing to do with our health ethics. Mcds is at fault up to a certain degree tho - in the food they make. All they really need to do is use better ingredients. Most of their ingredients are low grade and not fresh. It is actually a conscience decision if one wants to eat their food or not.


Here's a very tough one, in my opinion. Someone develops cancer from second hand smoke. Whose fault is this? The tabacco company's? The primary smokers?

Although I am an avid smoker, I believe it is truly both the tobacco's and the smoker's fault. The tobacco companies actually make a product that is addictive and kills. The smokers are at fault because it all comes down to what is right or wrong. If there is a non-smoker in the room, at least have the decency to either try not to smoke, or to leave the area and smoke some place else. If the non-smoker doesn't care if smokers are around that person, then it would be a tough call in who's at fault. Would it be the non-smoker's fault if that person does not mind the smoke and stays around smokers?

SoulBerry
03-28-2005, 09:23 PM
hm... you make a good point. My analogy is not totally revelent to the case at point. I would like to point out though, that, should someday MacDonalds be banned from North America, and they still sell their food, people would start going after the company more.

Bootlegged DVDs being illegal is a bit of a trip point for me. Why is selling copies of legal DVDs illegal when there are established pharmaceutical companies copying and selling drugs that brand name companies make? (aka. generic drugs). There seems to be a little problem there..

oh, and I think that if there's a relatively easy oppurtunity for the non-smoker to get away from the smoke, she/he is at fault if she/he stays at a site where there's lots of cigrette smoke. However, sometimes these cases require loss of oppurtunity; say you do construction, and the people around you smoke. If you quit, you risk going broke. Most people would say life over money, but say there's only a 30% chance of getting ill effects from the second hand smoke. It's hard to judge, isn't it? I'm beginning to have more respect for real life judges...

pYsCtiKfReAk
03-28-2005, 10:47 PM
i think that it's also part of the way america is built up...because everyone is so used to having a car and getting to and from somewhere without much effort...but other countries...ppl aren't so relied on cars...instead they use public transportation...and subway and trains...and then walk to where ever they want....the point is that america isn't and won't do anything to help people lose weight since there's more money put in places to keep ppl fat...how else could fast food function...car industry...gyms...and ppl who do surgery make money...=.=

k_angel_iii
03-29-2005, 03:20 AM
wee, it starts with obesity and ends with sex. Good job! I'm assuming you're a guy ;)


I'm assuming you're a girl :D .

Besides, sex is the reason most of us are here. Not that you're here to have sex.... but that if your parents didn't... you'd probably not be here typing right now. Okay, there are some people who were born through other methods, but for most people, you know the reason why you're here ;) .

Anyway, back to the topic. I mentioned sex because it is one of the other things people indulge in. You can view a lot of social issues of this form as being symptoms of the same problem. Lack of self control. When there is lack of self control, people indulge. When it is food, then we see them get fat. When it is drugs, then they may turn to crime to support their habits. When it is violence, then they do something stupid. When it is sex, then they do things they aren't supposed to be doing and wreck their relationships. When it is video games, then they might flunk out of school for not doing enough homework. You can add on to the list.

This isn't to say lack of self control is a bad trait. Perhaps, some time in the past it might have led to survival. But the environment has changed, and all of a sudden, things that were attractive or beneficial aren't anymore.

When I talked about evolution and selection, I was just generalizing this argument to other issues, and linking them all together. Yes, I like drawing lines between points ^___^

SoulBerry
03-29-2005, 03:37 AM
nope, I'm a guy..

and you are right. people indulge too much in unhealthy things. I recently had a friend, less than 20 years of age, undergo sugery to remove the threat of a stroke. His problems are part from genetics and part from indulgence.

I think they key point is that nothing in excess is good.

aviet2k
03-29-2005, 02:06 PM
Soulberry - your comment on the pharmaceutical companies made me think. You make a good point. I guess its some kind of copyright infringement policy that has loopholes and such. But what i also want to bring up is the fact that because it is generic, does not mean it is an exact replica. Bootlegged DVDs and movies are actually stealing the original work and making money off of it, without the owner's consent. If generic drug companies actually took the actual drugs out of the name brand bottles, put it in its own bottle, and slapped its own label on it, then i think this is how it would relate to bootlegging DVDs.

yea judges have it hard.

k_angel_iii - i agree with you about sex. when i was young, i used to believe that our sole purpose in life is to carry on the human race. It's natural. Sure people do it more than they should, but theres definitely nothing wrong with it.

yep, lack of self-control. the generation we live in is so spoiled that we easily give in to these things.

Sorry, i would add more to this... but i cant think right now.

strange_one
03-29-2005, 11:55 PM
alll i'm gonna say is this....... mass production=mass consumption thats america

Yakamashi
03-31-2005, 12:41 AM
well some ppl just have a slow metabolism... really slow. those ppl are not at fault. its like in their genes or something. but if u really self conscoius about ur weight next time u go for a jog and feel hungry dont stop by a kfc or mcdonalds and order greasy chicken wings or oil-filled "hamburgers". stop by at subways!! eat fresh! ... but even then thats not too good >.> ... number 1 country of obesity? hands down its america. i guess im lucky. i work in a hcinese restaurant and eat alot but i have a fast metabolism so i barely gain any weight no matter what i eat. but lotsa ppl i know are all " o im so fat" or "agh i need to lose weight" .... maybe its true but sometimes us americans cant help. those disgusting "hamburgers" and greasy fries that have been sitting in the metal tray call to us. i shall stop ranting and start eating my big mac now >.>

Nemui
03-31-2005, 05:29 PM
k_angel_iii, ever heard of "Test Tube Babies"?

Anyway, back to topic, I think everyone has a equal chance of losing weight through exercise. I don't think genetics have to do with obesity. For instance, I remember watching Marine training camps on Discovery, and it showed a 350 lb woman lose about 240 lb in two weeks. No, this is not bs. She was crying after the first day of training. And the sergeants said that they were going easy for the first three days. Secondly, the food that they ate were all under strict guidelines. So no indulgence here. Thirdly, why is it that everyone keeps on thinking that genetics causes obesity? The genes always keep on mutating with in the body. Stress from environment can change its structure. If genetics can change so easily, why not the physical body?

epicbard
03-31-2005, 05:32 PM
"I don't think genetics have to do with obesity."

well they do... it deals with how your body deals with fat, digestion etc.... that being said its no excuse for someone to be 300+ pounds

and this is the key:

"nothing in excess is good."

TheRisingSun
04-10-2005, 04:10 AM
look your never fat....just fluffy. haha sry i love Gabriel Iglesias. But seriously this is a big problem i mean i need to excerse more expecially as i have Diabedies(sp?) in my family

Soul Slayer
04-10-2005, 11:08 AM
look your never fat....just fluffy. haha sry i love Gabriel Iglesias. But seriously this is a big problem i mean i need to excerse more expecially as i have Diabedies(sp?) in my family

Diabetes...yes that runs on both sides of my family. Note...diabetes skips a generation usually so if your parents both have it...it'll be your children more at risk (depending on your spouse). BUT...if you're like me and its both sides of your GRANDPARENTS that have it...so your parents are the skipped generation then you should be like me...WATCH OUT!

All my life I limit the sodas, dilute my juices and my dad used to not let me eat donuts with icing on them! Hahaha....but either way..I just try to work out at least once a week, watch my diet and keep my waistline and weight down...the more muscle the better...the less fat the longer i'll live!

requinox
04-11-2005, 05:30 PM
It was just a scandal to make more money, I mean seriously what idiot in their right mind only eats supersize of MCDS for 30 dies strait and does not expect to die? I persoanally do not eat fast foods anymore, because they digust me and I once literally found a bugger in my burger.

He didn't do it for fun or on a whim. It's been a while since I've watched it, but I think he was challenging the notion/claim that MacDonalds can be part of a healthy and balanced diet. The movie itself wasn't a scandal, it revealed a lot sad things like the almost scary abundance of macdonalds and the lack of focus on health nowadays. (The company who was monitoring his body and performing the tests for the movie went out of business). I also found the comparisons in drink/fry serving sizes throughout the world and throughout time very interesting.

PINOY
04-11-2005, 05:52 PM
The sad truth is that big corporations don't give a **** about thier customers. They only care about one thing. Profit, money, and power, and unfortunantly for America almost all fast food chains' head offices and businesses are IN this country.

Hikari
04-11-2005, 07:16 PM
I also found the comparisons in drink/fry serving sizes throughout the world and throughout time very interesting.


Same here. My friend tells me that the portion sizes in England are also much smaller. I guess people in North America think that they're getting their money's worth when they get bigger portions.
And the guy who eats big macs everyday but still looks so skinny... freakish metabolism.

PINOY
04-12-2005, 08:18 AM
Yeah most Asians including myself can eat and eat...........and eat but not gain a single pound. Also, they give smaller portions just about anywhere in the world EXCEPT the U.S.

Truefriend
04-15-2005, 06:41 PM
Obesity is an easy thing to me. People chose to eat food and the amount, so therefore its their responibility. Also, if kids are becoming overweight, espeically little kids, blame the parents for not being responsible in saying "No" and spoiling their kid. Parents must be firm and learn how to enforce their desicions. If the parents are not to blame, blame the kid for making the choice to eat it. You don't HAVE to eat it if you don't want to or eat ALL of it. *Yells at McDonalds, "DANG YOU MCDONALDS!!! GIVE ME MY EXTRA FRENCH FRIES BACK!!! ITS MY CHOICE TO BE FAT IF I WANT TO :mad: "* OooOohh.. an Oreo :) .

Soul Slayer
04-15-2005, 11:39 PM
Simply put....

"Extra Value Meals" or super sized trios at fast food chains...
Buy one get one free...
All you can eat buffets....

All these things have to do with MONEY MONEY and we're getting FAT FAT along with it...such is society today...if it makes money...promotes...do it!

♠ Saint ♠
04-16-2005, 12:48 AM
Obesity is an easy thing to me. People chose to eat food and the amount, so therefore its their responibility. Also, if kids are becoming overweight, espeically little kids, blame the parents for not being responsible in saying "No" and spoiling their kid. Parents must be firm and learn how to enforce their desicions. If the parents are not to blame, blame the kid for making the choice to eat it. You don't HAVE to eat it if you don't want to or eat ALL of it. *Yells at McDonalds, "DANG YOU MCDONALDS!!! GIVE ME MY EXTRA FRENCH FRIES BACK!!! ITS MY CHOICE TO BE FAT IF I WANT TO :mad: "* OooOohh.. an Oreo :) .

I stopped watching Maury Povich after seeing an episode called "I can't say no!" These parent's kids were so big that one was in the hospital. When your 6 year old weighs in the three digits, there's something horribly wrong. The 6 year old's mom was like "I love her so much! I can't refuse her food! It would be cruel!" I wish I could have leapt through the TV and knocked the idiot out.

I swear, some people should be sterilized.

wai_no_feni
04-16-2005, 06:03 AM
......if i was six in the three digits, i'd strangle that hamburger myself.......
*sigh* it's such a shame that obesity has to be a disease now, rather than just a condition.

♠ Saint ♠
04-16-2005, 07:23 AM
True true. Some of it is genetics but most of it is lack of restraint. I swear, if I ever met the IDIOTS that sued McD's and all the other fast food chains for making THEM fat, there is going to be some major b!tch-slapping going on. I'm not kidding! The lack of personal responsibility in America disgusts me THAT MUCH. XP

Soul Slayer
04-16-2005, 11:31 AM
True true. Some of it is genetics but most of it is lack of restraint. I swear, if I ever met the IDIOTS that sued McD's and all the other fast food chains for making THEM fat, there is going to be some major b!tch-slapping going on. I'm not kidding! The lack of personal responsibility in America disgusts me THAT MUCH. XP

Self defensive attributions....

Everything is someone ELSE's fault...never your own...

And its sad people resort to that AND believe it...and convince OTHERS to believe it...

PINOY
04-16-2005, 09:59 PM
......if i was six in the three digits, i'd strangle that hamburger myself.......
*sigh* it's such a shame that obesity has to be a disease now, rather than just a condition.

Obesity is starting to kill more ppl than smoking. That to me is sad for a country that's supposed to be a "giving" country.

BlueKeitaro
04-27-2005, 01:23 PM
I think it's the fat they put in fast food. America has the highest Obesity rating in the world.

k_angel_iii
04-27-2005, 02:51 PM
I think it's the fat they put in fast food. America has the highest Obesity rating in the world.

I do agree about the fat content. However, when a person eats more than their body will use, the excess (at least the carbohydrates) gets turned to fat (one of the ideas that resulted is the "low-carb diet").

Visiting other countries like UK and Germany (I haven't been to all countries though :p ), their food portions are generally smaller, and they don't have Super-Jumbo size either :D . There are even regulations on how much salt (or other ingredients that affect health) go into snacks and stuff.

P4lladiumShifted
04-27-2005, 05:14 PM
British view of "Super Size"
Here are two more dollars, I would like one extra french fry and three more ice cubes in my drink please.

PINOY
04-28-2005, 02:41 PM
Also in Europe they're more expensive like 6-8 dollars for a meal. I think they do that so ppl wont buy too much food. Maybe we should consider raising fast food prices to drive away fat ppl instead of giving a whole bag of fries and 30 burgers for like 2 bucks.

spy182
05-02-2005, 03:35 AM
well about obesity for the people that just eat and eat then i have no sympathy for them but for people that have a gene that forces a peron into obesity i feel bad for them. And it definatly takes work to loose weight if you want to do it right.

♠ Saint ♠
05-02-2005, 12:49 PM
Also in Europe they're more expensive like 6-8 dollars for a meal. I think they do that so ppl wont buy too much food. Maybe we should consider raising fast food prices to drive away fat ppl instead of giving a whole bag of fries and 30 burgers for like 2 bucks.

Hmm... I did not know that. I don't think that execs here in America care too much about the health of their customers as much as they do about the money from those customers. It would have to be on the federal level for such a change to occur.

pajee
05-02-2005, 05:21 PM
It also has to deal with the fact that Americans are just plain lazy and inpatient. Call someone and they don't pick up. They cuss out the other person for being slow. Road rage because the person in front of them's following the law and is going "too slow." Getting piss at the printer for not printing fast enough.

People start exercising thinking it'll only take a few days. They come back home, eat a ton of food, watch tv, drink soda, snack, and fall asleep. They repeat the process for about 5 days and then give up. When they give up and start going back to their old habits, they find various excuses to why they stopped exercising. "I don't have time." "It wasn't working." "Going to the gym is too expensive." "It's not a priority." "I love myself for what I am." Ect.

What most people fail to realize is that you just can't go on a "diet" and expect to loose weight or stay fit. You'll have to change your life. Drive to work but park far from the entrance. That extra walk will save your arteries. Take your dog for a walk. Hell, take your cat for one! Go jogging around the block. Walk up the stairs instead of the elevators. DON'T BE AFRAID TO SWEAT! I hate it when girl's refuse to sweat. Did you know that sweating actually helps clear up your skin? No pimples here.


Someone mentioned the 6 year old kid that weighs triple digits. O_O Now if I had a 6 year old telling me to feed it and it was that big, I'd slap on some extra running time and give him a big fat N.O.

PINOY
05-06-2005, 11:40 AM
If you watched "SuperSize Me" you'll get the drift of America's little problem.

Sadokun
05-29-2005, 04:38 AM
It also has to deal with the fact that Americans are just plain lazy and inpatient.
People start exercising thinking it'll only take a few days. They come back home, eat a ton of food, watch tv, drink soda, snack, and fall asleep. They repeat the process for about 5 days and then give up. When they give up and start going back to their old habits, they find various excuses to why they stopped exercising. "I don't have time." "It wasn't working." "Going to the gym is too expensive." "It's not a priority." "I love myself for what I am." Ect.

What most people fail to realize is that you just can't go on a "diet" and expect to loose weight or stay fit. You'll have to change your life. Drive to work but park far from the entrance. That extra walk will save your arteries. Take your dog for a walk. Hell, take your cat for one! Go jogging around the block. Walk up the stairs instead of the elevators. DON'T BE AFRAID TO SWEAT! I hate it when girl's refuse to sweat. Did you know that sweating actually helps clear up your skin? No pimples here.

I totally agree with what pajee said here. America is just too lazy and impatient to correctly conquer obesity. I was watching an old episode of MTV's True life: I'm obese, and one of the people on there was a 17 year old kid who was eating poorly JUST SO HE COULD GET GASTRIC BYBPASS. How freakin lazy is that? Doesn't he understand the risk of the surgery? Good lord, if he just exercised a bit, and showed some restraint it would be much easier and safer for him. Personally I think a huge amount of people in America think if something needs to be fixed it needs to be done now, it has to be easy, and it has to work right then. If it doesn't than it's hard work and they refuse to do it or use it. I was a pretty big guy at one point in my life, and now I'm to a semi healthy point, but I still got a ways to go, and if I can do it so can the rest of lazy America.

lain in the wired
05-29-2005, 08:58 AM
When i went to America I was shocked at the level of obesiety in some people. There were people in wheel chairs going around disney world becuase they were too fat to walk which seems rediculouse0_0 I know it rude but we couldnt stop staring, its just not something you see where I live. Tho Im not really surprised there were so many fat people. The restraunts give such rediculously massive portions of food and at really cheep prices. I just coudnt eat it all, and I hate wasting food. It was the same in the super markets. They didnt seem to sell anything in small portions, everything was extra large.
In the UK at the moment healthy eating is a big thing. there are loads of adverts and programmes about it and there have been recent campains about improving school dinners for kids. Theres also the whole McDonalds trying to be super healthy whith there salads and and milk and "now we use real chicken in our nuggets" -_- I still wont eat there and I know alot of people who really dont like Mcdonalds anymore. Im really greatful that my parents brought me up on healthy food and not on turky twizzlers and fast food.

breakurjea
05-29-2005, 10:32 AM
When i went to America I was shocked at the level of obeciety in some people. There were people in wheel chairs going around disney world becuase they were too fat to walk which seems rediculouse0_0 I know it rude but we couldnt stop staring, its just not something you see where I live.
It's not rudeness its teh truth. It's amazing how hypocritical America is, and how lazy. All these 30days diet pills and new fad diets, yet gym memberships are down, and the fast food business is strong as ever. Kids at my school by diet sodas, thinking that'll make them lose weight, at the same time stocking up on candy and pizza. I don't have much respect for people with ailments they could've prevented (lung cancer from smoking, high blood pressure from fatness :D). My parents never really liked to eat out, so I grew up on my mom's food. yum

speedphantom
03-24-2007, 10:05 AM
I wrote an essay on childhood obesity earlier this week. Some people are just brought up with bad diets and such so blame the parents. If you haven't been taught to exercise and eat well then blame the parents as well since if you're a kid and you grow up with that mentallity you can't really do much about it.

As for the people who inherit it genetically, then thats unfortunate, just have to work harder to be at a healthy weight. For lazy people who are concious of their exercise habits or lack of as well as poor diet, your choice but you're going to be unhealthy which sucks.

No one can deny the value of having a healthy body.