santosj
02-12-2005, 02:19 AM
I really can't understand where the forum administrators and moderators are coming from because I'm not in their shoes. From my point of view, some forums moderators make absolutely no sense. You just have to ask yourself, "What the hell?" Although, the only terms of action is just respect the actions of the admin and mods and walk away.
Our Rights
Quite frankly, I think forums are more of an invitation into someone's house or assembly in a public place. You won't go running around naked or in a drunken stupor or general actions that make you look like a fool. So it is within the owner's (or admin's) right to kick any one out that is causing a problem. It is the person's choice to fight back but that is looked down unless a lot of users hate the mod (which is a story for another time).
To summarize: freedom of speech is accepted within a strict boundary. All other actions are prohibited.
I like the general rule, that every mod is right even if the mod is wrong. It is better to walk away with your tail between your legs then to have the tail chopped off and fed to you.
Mods are Humans Too
I like the mods that don't give a crap and let everyone do whatever they want but like anarchy that usually isn't a good idea for a extended period of time. The usually outcome of that situation is a lot of feelings being hurt and a few people subjected to outcasts status.
Boiling points are mental inhabitation that people need to keep in mind while writing and speaking. I usually talk to people that I don't know online in a nice, tongue-in-cheek, and devoid of sarcasm manner. Sarcasm is something to watch carefully, just the other day, I had to explain a phase because it was taken as an insult. The person wasn't English or American so the phase was lost on the person.
Breaking the Mold
There comes a point, I think with everyone, that they just had enough of playing the role and lose themselves. This usually comes when someone sees something that irritates them past the boiling point and they snap. There have been a few times for myself that I had written something and had to step back and say that I probably shouldn't post that.
Things that Don't Make Sense
First rule: ask.
"Why can't I double post?"
"Why can't I flame someone on the forums that pissed me off and deserves a verbal and physical beating?"
I like what someone said on another forum and simply stated, every forum has the general forum rules but some have other rules that are unique to that forum. On the other forum, I came across something that confused me and usually when someone is confused they initially blame the person that caused the confusion.
The argument was posting in a specific forum and the mods stated that since it is a rule then the rule should be respected. On the other side, the users stated that since it was a rule then the enforcement should be hard coded in that forum and not just a plain forum. As a network administrator student, I remember (one of the few things that I actually remember) is that when making a policy, one has to set up an enforcement, not only in the rules but also disallow the said thing from ever happening in the first place.
People are naturally going to do something if they can. Even if they read the policy, they probably are going to say they forgot or didn't read that section. It is irritating because there is no way around the issue, the mods will simply state that the rule stands and the users will reply that it should also be in the permissions. It looks really bad when the users feel that the owners don't know how to use their own software.
Time Issue
Since Mods are people, they have lives (no really?) and those lives may conflict with reading every idiotic post. I have my own forum that used to have four active members so I have no idea what it is like to have hundreds of posts every hour or day nor do I. I would rather have less than a hundred active users with less than a hundred posts a day. Sure in that group, there is going to be one ***, me not included.
Grammar
Maybe I'm bringing up a taboo but I think mods, admins, and authoritative members should have good grammar skills. It really looks unprofessional when a mod posts something like, "LOL, that is col [cool], witch [which] is ya talkin about?" Should mods and admin be English majors? No, that is a unreasonable request, even one for myself. I can't ask someone to be better at English than I am but I at least try (**** it).
Conclusion
For the most part this forum is run fairly well so it feels like a functional society of diversity. I'm mostly talking about other forums and I'm sure everyone has had this problem. The reason why I don't post this on those forums is that I'll have my *** handed to me and I very much like going to those other forums to post spoilers for anime only watchers and flame members for no particular reason.
Also note that isn't a flame thread and if you are hating on someone then do it in email. Also, I would like to note how long it takes for the mods to ban me.
Our Rights
Quite frankly, I think forums are more of an invitation into someone's house or assembly in a public place. You won't go running around naked or in a drunken stupor or general actions that make you look like a fool. So it is within the owner's (or admin's) right to kick any one out that is causing a problem. It is the person's choice to fight back but that is looked down unless a lot of users hate the mod (which is a story for another time).
To summarize: freedom of speech is accepted within a strict boundary. All other actions are prohibited.
I like the general rule, that every mod is right even if the mod is wrong. It is better to walk away with your tail between your legs then to have the tail chopped off and fed to you.
Mods are Humans Too
I like the mods that don't give a crap and let everyone do whatever they want but like anarchy that usually isn't a good idea for a extended period of time. The usually outcome of that situation is a lot of feelings being hurt and a few people subjected to outcasts status.
Boiling points are mental inhabitation that people need to keep in mind while writing and speaking. I usually talk to people that I don't know online in a nice, tongue-in-cheek, and devoid of sarcasm manner. Sarcasm is something to watch carefully, just the other day, I had to explain a phase because it was taken as an insult. The person wasn't English or American so the phase was lost on the person.
Breaking the Mold
There comes a point, I think with everyone, that they just had enough of playing the role and lose themselves. This usually comes when someone sees something that irritates them past the boiling point and they snap. There have been a few times for myself that I had written something and had to step back and say that I probably shouldn't post that.
Things that Don't Make Sense
First rule: ask.
"Why can't I double post?"
"Why can't I flame someone on the forums that pissed me off and deserves a verbal and physical beating?"
I like what someone said on another forum and simply stated, every forum has the general forum rules but some have other rules that are unique to that forum. On the other forum, I came across something that confused me and usually when someone is confused they initially blame the person that caused the confusion.
The argument was posting in a specific forum and the mods stated that since it is a rule then the rule should be respected. On the other side, the users stated that since it was a rule then the enforcement should be hard coded in that forum and not just a plain forum. As a network administrator student, I remember (one of the few things that I actually remember) is that when making a policy, one has to set up an enforcement, not only in the rules but also disallow the said thing from ever happening in the first place.
People are naturally going to do something if they can. Even if they read the policy, they probably are going to say they forgot or didn't read that section. It is irritating because there is no way around the issue, the mods will simply state that the rule stands and the users will reply that it should also be in the permissions. It looks really bad when the users feel that the owners don't know how to use their own software.
Time Issue
Since Mods are people, they have lives (no really?) and those lives may conflict with reading every idiotic post. I have my own forum that used to have four active members so I have no idea what it is like to have hundreds of posts every hour or day nor do I. I would rather have less than a hundred active users with less than a hundred posts a day. Sure in that group, there is going to be one ***, me not included.
Grammar
Maybe I'm bringing up a taboo but I think mods, admins, and authoritative members should have good grammar skills. It really looks unprofessional when a mod posts something like, "LOL, that is col [cool], witch [which] is ya talkin about?" Should mods and admin be English majors? No, that is a unreasonable request, even one for myself. I can't ask someone to be better at English than I am but I at least try (**** it).
Conclusion
For the most part this forum is run fairly well so it feels like a functional society of diversity. I'm mostly talking about other forums and I'm sure everyone has had this problem. The reason why I don't post this on those forums is that I'll have my *** handed to me and I very much like going to those other forums to post spoilers for anime only watchers and flame members for no particular reason.
Also note that isn't a flame thread and if you are hating on someone then do it in email. Also, I would like to note how long it takes for the mods to ban me.