View Full Version : On Orihime's fairies
hasukawa13
09-11-2004, 05:20 PM
I was wondering recently about the nature of Orihime's hairclip fairies (for want of a better term). They mentioned that they were "her power" but what does that mean? Are they simply representations of her spiritual power, something she unconsciously created? Or are they actual beings that are powered by her spiritual power? I'm going with them as being her own creations rather than beings independent of her.
Patrioil
09-11-2004, 05:26 PM
Well... I think they are her weapons, created by spiritual powers,
just like Ishida's bow and Chad's arm (or whatever that thing is).
I think hey're called "Flower Power" though :P
Babbo
09-12-2004, 07:44 PM
Yeah, they are, but ishida's Bow is a little different, based off the manipulation of spiritrons and it's an inherited quincy power. chad and Orhime's power's were powers they had that were awakened by exposure to Ichigo's spiritual power.
Hitsugaya
09-12-2004, 07:46 PM
yeah her powers are pretty strange well they'll most likely elaborate on it more later on in the next arc maybe
Lst2touchdasky
09-12-2004, 09:29 PM
But wasnt it mentioned before what type of power chad had before he was taken down by that one captain? Only Orihime's power was unknown: My guess is that they're are her spirital energy taking on a crystalized form of her personality. This would explain why her thoughts are never straight and she is so diverse yet strong in everything she does (black belt lvl in martail arts, ranked 3rd intelligence wise, and mostly her appitite). And imo the reason why she didnt have her power before hand is because her crystalized forms had nothing to do; it wasnt until she wanted to protect her friend could her energy take on a form of a shield.
this probally didnt make any sense but o well
Djudge
09-12-2004, 11:16 PM
It sure does, and that's a pretty interesting way to look at it.
Orihime's power is pretty much unknown and is most likely nothing more than a spontaneous manifestation of spiritual power. There really isn't much more to it than that and since Mayuri didn't really know anything about it, chances are that it's not as common as the ability that Sado/Chad used when he tried to take on Shuichi.
hasukawa13
09-27-2004, 04:31 PM
It would be nice to see Orihime be somewhat creative with her power. She could use the shield power to block an enemies attack and make it backfire on themselves. And I wonder exactly what other kind of attacks that angry fairy can do. When he went up against that chubby shinigami and was smacked down, he mentioned that Orihime shouldn't have used that kind of attack against him making me think there were other options available to her.
Also, for Chad I wondered about the nature of his arm. Chad called it armor at one point and armor usually comes in more than one piece so maybe there will be more coming. Maybe at some point Chad will develop otehr pieces to go with the arm and thus become stronger. It would be an interesting development and would make me happy. It seems that Chad is getting left behind in terms of power level. I'd like to see an upgrade for our gentle giant.
Babbo
09-27-2004, 05:41 PM
It would be nice to see Orihime be somewhat creative with her power. She could use the shield power to block an enemies attack and make it backfire on themselves. And I wonder exactly what other kind of attacks that angry fairy can do. When he went up against that chubby shinigami and was smacked down, he mentioned that Orihime shouldn't have used that kind of attack against him making me think there were other options available to her.
Also, for Chad I wondered about the nature of his arm. Chad called it armor at one point and armor usually comes in more than one piece so maybe there will be more coming. Maybe at some point Chad will develop otehr pieces to go with the arm and thus become stronger. It would be an interesting development and would make me happy. It seems that Chad is getting left behind in terms of power level. I'd like to see an upgrade for our gentle giant.
I hope not I'm not sure if I'd wanna see chad suited up like a ****in power ranger, I think it would be better if he developed nwe techniques/powers with his arm as it is.
teferi
09-27-2004, 06:54 PM
he should just be able to use both arms with the armor stuff or maybe just a better version of the old one
Lst2touchdasky
09-27-2004, 07:05 PM
chad kinda reminds me of scryed
Babbo
09-27-2004, 07:07 PM
Except he's not as messed up
Lst2touchdasky
09-27-2004, 07:23 PM
chad or the pedophile?
Babbo
09-27-2004, 07:25 PM
Anybody in scryed, that manga's really weird
except for the odl guy who taught them scryed, he was awesome
Cheese Ninja
09-29-2004, 08:38 PM
Can Orihime still use her fairies if she loses her hairclips? Because originally, those were just normal hairclips her brother gave her. I'd hate to see her power disabled if she misplaced them or got them taken away, it would just be too dumb. I figure she can materialize them now, or summon them. I don't think Inoue has any other attacks she can use at this point, which is one of the reasons she's bemoaning her weakness. The fairies themselves are probably aspects of her personality, not individual entities.
I could see Chad getting more armor, but it's impossible to tell for sure. He could end up like Kazuma did near the end of Scryed. I would like to read the last Scryed manga volume sometime, the anime wasn't very good, and they are two completely different stories. Stories so different it's amazing, the title doesn't even have any significance in the anime.
But for now, all the characters still seem to be developing their abilities, but I hope they stop eventually, because the constant powering up is a cliche that I'm getting sick of.
Babbo
09-29-2004, 08:45 PM
Can Orihime still use her fairies if she loses her hairclips? Because originally, those were just normal hairclips her brother gave her. I'd hate to see her power disabled if she misplaced them or got them taken away, it would just be too dumb. I figure she can materialize them now, or summon them. I don't think Inoue has any other attacks she can use at this point, which is one of the reasons she's bemoaning her weakness. The fairies themselves are probably aspects of her personality, not individual entities.
I could see Chad getting more armor, but it's impossible to tell for sure. He could end up like Kazuma did near the end of Scryed. I would like to read the last Scryed manga volume sometime, the anime wasn't very good, and they are two completely different stories. Stories so different it's amazing, the title doesn't even have any significance in the anime.
But for now, all the characters still seem to be developing their abilities, but I hope they stop eventually, because the constant powering up is a cliche that I'm getting sick of.
where do you get that idea?
orhime's power is her own pwer which was awakened by the time of need ( that hollow she fought the first time) and by constant exposure to Ichigo's enormous spiritual power.
teferi
09-29-2004, 09:29 PM
yeah i know, its definitely not her hairclips; it her boobs! :D
Djudge
09-29-2004, 09:55 PM
Babbo, Cheese Ninja got that idea from the closing pages of volume 5, right after Orihime took out that Hollow threatening the school and before Uruhara arrived with Tessai and Sado to take her away for some medical treatment/briefing. Right after Orihime fainted, the six entities that make up her innate power once again became dormant, assumed the shapes of the hairpins Kakei gave to her, and fell to the ground. If you still don't think the hairpins aren't their dormant shape, take a close look at the panels beforehand: before she stepped up the plate, Tatsuki did most of the fighting and Kubo inserted panels in which panels detailing Orihime's head were shown. The pins are still there; right beside each temple on her head. However, after Tatsuki is turned into one of the Hollow's puppets, the hairpins disappear from those spots instantly and Orihime is now able to use her dormant powers.
Babbo
09-29-2004, 10:11 PM
Babbo, Cheese Ninja got that idea from the closing pages of volume 5, right after Orihime took out that Hollow threatening the school and before Uruhara arrived with Tessai and Sado to take her away for some medical treatment/briefing. Right after Orihime fainted, the six entities that make up her innate power once again became dormant, assumed the shapes of the hairpins Kakei gave to her, and fell to the ground. If you still don't think the hairpins aren't their dormant shape, take a close look at the panels beforehand: before she stepped up the plate, Tatsuki did most of the fighting and Kubo inserted panels in which panels detailing Orihime's head were shown. The pins are still there; right beside each temple on her head. However, after Tatsuki is turned into one of the Hollow's puppets, the hairpins disappear from those spots instantly and Orihime is now able to use her dormant powers.(sorry, last time I read vol5 was months ago)
Ok, then along those lines, I doubt that should could lose spiritual powers that are a part of her through physical changes
teferi
09-29-2004, 10:12 PM
umm d00d if u also read more carefully you will notice that the fairies are made up by her from her consciousness so id oubt shed connect them to her hairpins
Lst2touchdasky
09-29-2004, 10:49 PM
This is just a theory
If you look at all the characters, they have soomething to focus their spiritual engeries into; all those who fight atleast. But for those who dont, thats because they dont know how and they never had the situation where they needed to focus their energy. So in that case Energy is most likely released through the only part of the body that most free to move and has the weakest connection to the natural plane, the eyes. With this idea you can explain how a few bystandards can see ghost. But going back on topic, Orihime, unlike chad or the quincy- has no prior need fight or simply connect connection with spiritual beings. The that she connects with anyone is with ichi and her brother, making those 2 the closest connection. But she cant go around and swing a hollow or pick up ichi and use him as a weapon; so with her only object with her brother's presence, her hair pin, she focus her energy into that forming her faries. My guess is by now, her presence in soul society and her training with the cat probally allows her to find a situation and the need to focus her energy into other objects, but the pins will do just fine until they break ;p
teferi
09-29-2004, 10:52 PM
why does she need something to focus her power into chad doesnt( unless ur gonna say he focuses his power into his muscles.......)
Lst2touchdasky
09-29-2004, 11:01 PM
Well can you see chad using any other weapon? His arm is the only reasonable thing he can use without going out of character, and doesnt it say in chads fight that he focus' his energy into his arm and releases it; its just like a primative form of the quincy's skills
Djudge
09-29-2004, 11:15 PM
True there Lst, I'm not gonna go ahead and say that she NEEDS the hairpins in order to use her abilities (they are innate after all). She just probably uses them in the same fashion that Ishida once used the pendant/cross on his wrist as a sort of medium that expedites the summoning process. Hell, she probably doesn't even need them anymore since she was practicing the verbal incantations so she would no longer need any sort of somatic component for the summoning.
So, to sum up, they were probably conduits that help her in quickly bringing out those six entities that make up her powers.
teferi
09-30-2004, 10:05 AM
i still think its her boobs :p
hasukawa13
10-03-2004, 05:24 PM
i still think its her boobs :p
By God, she has brains, too! She's just a brainy, busty space cadet with a huge heart. But realy, she has grown quite a bit as a character. She doesn't come off as spacey as she used to.
KibouHoshi
10-03-2004, 07:12 PM
I agree, she has grown character wise. She's not so much as an idiot and a klutz.
teferi
10-03-2004, 08:19 PM
thats just because the situations are more serious; she becomes more serious once she gains her powers and goes to soul society before that shes just a character at school ( except when shes being attacked by her brother-at which point she just gets all emotional). She''l become an idiot and klutz when the setting demands it.
hasukawa13
10-03-2004, 08:49 PM
It's not just that she's in a serious situation because we still see those funny Orihime moments. She's grown in her attitude's toward fighting. She shows concern not only for herself, but for others, even people who are her enemy. Perhaps being in SS just gives us a chance to see that side of her in action, btu she has grown, just like all the other characters we've seen since the beginning.
Babbo
10-03-2004, 09:16 PM
Babbo still thinks despite this that it's her Boobs
Babbo was wondering when she was wise...............
teferi
10-03-2004, 09:40 PM
she has always shown concern for others; ie in the 1st vol. when her brother attacks, in the 2nd or 3rd vol about icigo's moms death etc. shes concerned in virtually every volume she shows up in.
hasukawa13
10-04-2004, 01:49 AM
Orihime is actually pretty smart. Remember that she got pretty high up there in the grades category. But I stand by the notion that she has grown as a character. i iamgine she could just as easily go back to her flighty self once this is all over and she's back in the real world, but for now, we see this more serious side to her.
Hybrid_Affinity
09-01-2005, 06:55 AM
Maybe tatsuki is going to turn into a giant fairy because orihime will focus her energy on her.
i doubt it.. but i wonder what will happen to her now.. since tsubaki got squished..
oh yea.. question!!!
i thought the faries were connected to orihime's lifeforce? since tsubaki got squished does that mean orihime's dying? or dos it prove that tsubaki's still alive but he's just subdued again??
jonat3
09-01-2005, 07:03 AM
i doubt it.. but i wonder what will happen to her now.. since tsubaki got squished..
oh yea.. question!!!
i thought the faries were connected to orihime's lifeforce? since tsubaki got squished does that mean orihime's dying? or dos it prove that tsubaki's still alive but he's just subdued again??
We'll probably see Tsubaki again, but in SS it took quite awhile for tsubaki to recover, so don't expect to see it again for awhile.
Tsubaki being destroyed is like a shinigami's whose sword has been destroyed. A shinigami is quite alive can still fight without his sword (like Kaien).
Biswa
09-01-2005, 09:26 AM
And there may be more to Inoue's powers than meets the eye. So far, every enemy she has encountered have been puzzled by her power. Though anyone would be puzzled, it still foreshadows something, i think. Also Kubo mentioned that she's going to become a very important character later on.
jonat3
09-01-2005, 09:31 AM
And there may be more to Inoue's powers than meets the eye. So far, every enemy she has encountered have been puzzled by her power. Though anyone would be puzzled, it still foreshadows something, i think. Also Kubo mentioned that she's going to become a very important character later on.
My guess is, Inoue can do something other healers can't. Reviving someone whose soul has been sucked out. That's my guess anyway.
eriol
09-01-2005, 11:11 AM
Hey Guys, I dont know If someone had my idea... I have some strange guess that Orihime is a sort of reincarnation of old princess or something, and the fairies are her ninja guardians. Thus, they were reborn as well when Orihime unleashed her power in the school. Well, that's just my Idea! maybe someone would make a fanfic of it xD
Vorlindeion
09-01-2005, 02:28 PM
Maybe tatsuki is going to turn into a giant fairy because orihime will focus her energy on her.
lol i was actually thinking about this as a way tatsuki can get powers.
has anyone else noticed that the six flowers (fairies) can be representations of orihime's soul?
Shuno (name probably wrong) - her intelligent side
Tsubaki - her fighting, confrontational personality
Ayame - her shy nature
Hinagaku - her wild/crazy side (her interesting dishes for example)
Lily - her sexy nature
Baigon - her wise, caring nature
makes sense i guess.
djudge is probably right about the hairpins being a medium for her powers. dunno wut would happen if they broke..
maybe when tsubaki got crushed, a part of the pin broke. which means she can get it fixed again..
bleachigo
09-01-2005, 04:02 PM
chad and orihime's power most likely reflect on the type of person they are and were thus created unconsciously
Chained to Desire
09-01-2005, 04:18 PM
My guess is, Inoue can do something other healers can't. Reviving someone whose soul has been sucked out. That's my guess anyway.
Technically she already does something other Healers can, Orihime doesnt actually "heal" a person, she rewinds time to before they were hurt.
So...possibly it could be like that time Louise Lane Died and Super Man flew against the Earths rotation and rewound time to save her XD :p
Redeem
09-01-2005, 06:07 PM
Technically she already does something other Healers can, Orihime doesnt actually "heal" a person, she rewinds time to before they were hurt.
So...possibly it could be like that time Louise Lane Died and Super Man flew against the Earths rotation and rewound time to save her XD :p
We are not sure yet if she actually rewinds time... Urukiola that's it could be Time manipulation or Space manipulation... but he is not sure... Rewind time, IMO, it's a cheap power... She could later start doing ubber things that would just take the fun out of Bleach, She would be the Dragon Balls of this manga.
hasiticninja
09-01-2005, 06:26 PM
I hope to see her become not only stronger but more involved in the story. Maybe she'll become the giant mecha she wants :P but yeah her ability to alter time is probably gonna be important later on, plus she needs to get more resolve before fighting with tsubaki cause he keeps getting beat up. Maybe Urahara and yoruichi will train her now since she is at the level where she could improve greatly with coaching. One interesting thing is that when unohana sees her healing she is impressed by how she is dfoing it and not getting tired or losing spirit power... or was that her VC... not sure.
speedphantom
09-01-2005, 06:49 PM
I don't think Tsubaki could possibly be killed even if he was powdered. He is a part of Orihime's soul so it can't just disappear.
If Tsubaki was to be killed then Orihime would be useless in attacking but that might be where Kubo is heading with her, just being a healer seeing as she is useless offensively.
Chained to Desire
09-01-2005, 07:27 PM
We are not sure yet if she actually rewinds time... Urukiola that's it could be Time manipulation or Space manipulation... but he is not sure... Rewind time, IMO, it's a cheap power... She could later start doing ubber things that would just take the fun out of Bleach, She would be the Dragon Balls of this manga.
In chapter 43, where the Shun Shun Rikka first appear. Shonou explains to Orihime, Ayame and Her can restore a subject to the state that they were before taking damage. Which would makes sense to Urikiola's time manipulation comment.
Yea, her time manipulation could become a cheap move. But KT is a very good writer and wouldnt allow a god-modded character to run a muck like that.
crazysmoke
09-01-2005, 08:08 PM
so i guess the big difference in orihime's healing ability then other healers is that its "unrestricted".
hasukawa13
09-02-2005, 01:39 AM
I really don't see Orihime becoming a god like power. If this is time manipulation, I don't think it is too powerful. REmember that everything she does is localized. When she does her healing thing, time doesn't just go backwards, sending everything back to before the injury happened. It simply restores things to their previous condition. And she does have limits to her powers, too. She wasn't able to heal Tsubaki when he was crushed and when she healed the big gate guards arm, it winded her. Yes, she is getting stronger and less prone to exhaustion when using her powers, but she's a long way off from being a major player...though I certainly love the idea of her becoming more of a prime player. Go, Princess!
Jempong
09-02-2005, 01:50 AM
I agree with hasukawa, her time manipulation technique might play a god part in the later future, but there's should be a limit to how far she can do it. I don't think her power would ever developed to a real massive level. I'd go for useful powers...not god-like
Well the difference between 4th and orihime's healing ability is that orihime can go as far as fixing limbs that are cut off..I don't think 4th division officers can ever do that
jonat3
09-02-2005, 01:53 AM
Personally i think Orihime has a verys strong talent for saving people. Not like Ichigo of course, but in healing. Imagine something what even captain Unohana couldn't do, since Orihime's technique is superior.
yea but remember that her healing is only limited to a certain space.. and it only returns the body to its previous condition. they didnt say that when the soul get sucked [like what yammy did.. or was it the other guy..] she could return the soul to the body.. so maybe she can only heal physical or internal injuries but nothing of that scale.. even if she has an ability to manipulate time it still has a few or maybe a lot of defects.. KT wont make some character that doesnt have any weaknesses.. that would really suck..
isnt orihime one of the prime players already? i mean she gets more exposure now compared to other female characters.. all that she lacks is a fight that would stick to our minds.. like ichigo vs byakuya.. or ishida vs. kurosutchi mayuri.. like those..:D
jonat3
09-02-2005, 02:02 AM
yea but remember that her healing is only limited to a certain space.. and it only returns the body to its previous condition. they didnt say that when the soul get sucked [like what yammy did.. or was it the other guy..] she could return the soul to the body.. so maybe she can only heal physical or internal injuries but nothing of that scale.. even if she has an ability to manipulate time it still has a few or maybe a lot of defects.. KT wont make some character that doesnt have any weaknesses.. that would really suck..
isnt orihime one of the prime players already? i mean she gets more exposure now compared to other female characters.. all that she lacks is a fight that would stick to our minds.. like ichigo vs byakuya.. or ishida vs. kurosutchi mayuri.. like those..:D
Naturally, she will have limits. But i don't imagine her ever winning a one on one fight on the scale as Ichigo fights them. I more imagine that there will come a time where she has to protect a group of people from an army of weak hollows or that she may fight someone who is vice captain level.
Chained to Desire
09-02-2005, 02:02 AM
Well the difference between 4th and orihime's healing ability is that orihime can go as far as fixing limbs that are cut off..I don't think 4th division officers can ever do that
12 Division's got that Covered :D
Shunou and Ayame time manipulation only effects stuff inside thier sheild, and the biggest we've seen her stretch that sheild was Jidanbou's arm socket and Tatsuki's whole body (which might be the same size)
Who knows how far she can stretch it
Jempong
09-02-2005, 01:13 PM
12 Division's got that Covered :D
Shunou and Ayame time manipulation only effects stuff inside thier sheild, and the biggest we've seen her stretch that sheild was Jidanbou's arm socket and Tatsuki's whole body (which might be the same size)
Who knows how far she can stretch it
Oh yeah, forgot about Mayuri's weird invention :p
Well there's also the time where she heals Ichigo when his body was almost sliced into two by Aizen. She managed to stretch the shield to cover his whole body
BadCrawford
09-02-2005, 03:33 PM
Funny, since she can turn back time I bet Inoue could've gave Ishida his powers and maybe even glove back. Imagine all the captains he could've owned removing his glove again and again. :p
Vorlindeion
09-02-2005, 05:14 PM
Funny, since she can turn back time I bet Inoue could've gave Ishida his powers and maybe even glove back. Imagine all the captains he could've owned removing his glove again and again. :p
she can only reverse damage done in the shield's area. i doubt she could done something like that
Querente
09-02-2005, 07:54 PM
Hime's powers seem to be affect space ,more then time. Repel, deflect, slice..all seems to be about matter repelling or slicing it. The healing ability does the reverse, it moves particles back together (again moving space again..if you look at Chad's arm, it seems pieces of flesh are floating back together)
It might be a possibility that Hime will become very important, because it is perhaps her power that will allow our heroes to go to other worlds, like where the hollows are hiding. Manipulating space, she can split space open and create a doorway (much like those giant hollow, Grand hmm..something, Grand Menno).
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